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I don't know how you could possibly quantify this though.

That was fast. I saw his farewell to the NHL.com gig post this weekend and was wondering what the next step was.

See, I think those conspiracies wind up being the most uniting. That's the rare case where you get to see both sides join up for a good laugh. "You and I may be different, but at least you're not that guy."

And they could very well be approaching the point of moving picks to supplement the roster. Time will tell with that. What we shouldn't do is be held accountable for the sins of previous GMs. If he is handed a team that needs a ton of reshuffling, he needs to do exactly that regardless of what just happened a couple years before he got here. All of that is sunk at this point. Sure it sucks for us the fans, but if Botterill seriously believes something needs to be done to make this organization better, he needs to do exactly that. Screw the fans. Turning those picks into Dustin Penner will do that to you.

Sometimes being a huge nerd leads to a really cool avatar.

Sorry, it wasn't a comment about you.

Are we catching onto all of this just now? It's kind of interesting to see how some posters are given the troll label while others aren't. I realize that others want something completely different, but this is all I want at this point, entertaining hockey. It has to start somewhere. Hey, leave me out of this.

Is it a conversation though if it's just two people yelling at a wall? There are people who do want to listen, but usually it's the extremes who are the most vocal. I wish we could pinpoint the exact moment where being disagreed with became such an affront. Disagreement is healthy, it makes things interesting. Take it and learn from it instead of acting like someone just shot your puppy. Sadly I think we're a long way from people realizing that.

And typically the teams that are taking on the cap hits are from guys who they don't actually have to pay. So for that, you're either retaining salary in a deal or you've got a LTIR or retired guy. We don't have any candidates for the latter right now... well, at least until Bogosian plays a few more games.

I want to back this up for a second as I try to keep up in my mind with the bodies in/out so far. Am I missing something with this list, potential AHL guys in parentheses? Forwards out: O'Reilly Pouliot Nolan (I kind of want to put him in parentheses) (Fasching) Forwards in: Sheary Bergland Sobotka (Thompson) Defense out: Gorges Antipin Defense in: Dahlin Hunwick I kind of want to list Mittlestadt as an addition as well, but I'll leave that out. It also leads to possibly adding someone like Guhle. Anyway, I'm just trying to sort this out from a pure body count point of view. And then there are the goalies, but I'd say that one is much more clear so I won't bother to list it.

but when you do, you drink dos equis?

I'd be curious to see exactly how he wound up at UCONN. Some of their higher rated guys have been players who were originally recruited somewhere else but then failed to meet admission standards. I can't find anything to suggest that he was committed to another school though. It's possible that he was a big recruit just as they were making the jump to hockey east. This is the feeling I have right now. Start him out in the AHL and then maybe he winds up being an early full time recall, sort of like what happened with Pominville years ago (ignore the age difference).

Are you my brother? Pretty much everything you say matches up with him perfectly. He never brought a tin foil Stanley Cup to any playoff games though, so I'm guessing you're not.

I don't mean to pick on you, but this line is a perfect example of how things go off the rails around here. You're saying Thompson is either a hall of famer or a bust. We overvalue just about everything, which ultimately leads to disappointment.

Not only is it not asterisked out in anyway, but they also include much more of the quote than you typically get to see. I wish we'd see that more in these reports. There's still plenty of context lost in the whole thing, but it feels like Torts words aren't getting the total hatchet job that you usually see in online reporting.

A friend from college recently had his first baby. I was looking through amazon for a gift yesterday and the first thing that popped up was a BU football onsie. They shut that program down in 1997. I really want to buy that one though. My friend would laugh his ass off. The mother wouldn't get it though, which completely kills the gift.

Just start calling it bounceyball. That usually gets them worked up.

No it’s not the offer sheet alone, it’s also the timing. He stuck around in Russia while the rest of the league returned from the lockout. The whole thing was odd. On a side note, I really wish that Colorado hadn’t matched it and then Calgary would have lost him anyway to waivers.

Not to many in the NHL take it to the point of a hold out though. I can understand why someone might have some red flags for him. Hold out may not be the proper term for that whole fiasco coming out of the lockout, but it was definitely unique.

They need to write a book on all of that. There’s so much incompetence to go around. I’d love to read the chapter titled LaFontaine”.

So little of what you’re describing is Botterill though. He’s been on the job one year now. Are you counting anything beyond Kane-O’Reilly to that bad asset management? Yeah, I realize those are two big fish right there if you are in fact right, but I’m trying to get a feel for anything else you might be talking about. What’s becoming very obvious is that this team is coming dangerously close to bills territory where the actions of each GM can easily wind up being lumped together into one giant ball of crap... the new guy automatically gets lumped in with his predecessors

Based off of their recent track record, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them fall off the cliff again. That team has been a crazy roller coaster ride, never doing what they’re expected to.

I’d love to know exactly how this whole thing played out. For a few days now we’ve all known that O’Reilly was headed to St Louis. I can’t think of too many cases like that. How exactly does all of this leak out and how does the package morph from what it was on Friday? Just once I’d love to know who is actually leaking this stuff out.

Picture learning this news a few hours after it happened. There’s a whole lot of crap to wade through when you’re in catch up mode. It quickly outweighs the well reasoned stuff. Some people just want to bitch and that becomes obvious fast. But anyway, I’m curious to see where they go from here. We have a ton of new bodies all of a sudden and I can’t help but think there’s more to come via trade. I’m definitely curious to see how the use of this glut of draft picks will compare to Murray’s approach.

All I know is that if Hickey keeps his sweet porn stache, all will be right in the world. Or did it just look like a stache through that visor cage? Now I don’t know what to believe.