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See this thread works! Even @PerreaultForever is talking about possible success! 🎇

Strictly because we're in the hopium thread I offer refutations. Scenario 1 - I don't think a Dahlin trade request happens before this season's trade deadline. They have one season to go for it. Scenario 2 - True, but no "fringe" team can lose their leading scorer and a Norris-caliber defenseman. A great team, sure. A borderline team: no. For example, take Quinn Hughes and ... Pettersson? out of the Canucks lineup. No chance. Scenario 3 - Georgiev! Anyway, it's about committing to team defense and giving whoever is in goal a chance. If UPL stays upright and doesn't overslide his net, he can be effective. Scenario 4 - If Ruff is that out of touch, he should just retire. There's no reason to grind the youngest (again x5) team in the league. And he doesn't have anything to prove. What's at stake? His job? He's a lame duck. He can cruise. And maybe that attitude will help the players relax. But yes, they could all still be sorely underwhelming, even with improvements from last year.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sources-nhl-suspends-players-acquitted-in-2018-sexual-assault-trial-until-dec-1/ They weren't proven innocent. They were acquitted of the charges. These are different things. An acquittal means that the prosecutor in the eyes of the judge or jury (depending on the type of case) failed to prove their case against "beyond a reasonable doubt." It's the same criminal standard in the both the US and Canada. This doesn't mean they are "innocent." It just means that there wasn't enough evidence to convict them. Think the OJ case. Does anyone really believe OJ didn't kill Nicole or Ron Goldman? The standard in a civil case is significantly less. I don't think we'll ever actually know the full details of what happened. What we can say is that were acquitted. We can also say that the original investigation in 2019 concluded that there was insufficient evidence to charge the players, but was this investigation tainted by Hockey Canada? We can also say that the NHL did their own investigation and found that the players didn't act criminally, but their actions failed to meet the NHL's moral integrity standard. I think this is a nearly impossible situation. Do we forgive and give these men a second chance? I think each NHL team must decide for themselves. They need to carefully look at the role each player played in the event and I think they need to look at who the players are today. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of teams take a chance on a couple of these guys. I don't think McLeod will be one of them.

They are going to bring back The three headed monster!

Decent idea and cheap... more competition and if Gourgiev gets his groove back who knows... Goalies can be such a fickle position... worth a flyer.

Oh no they most definitely can be worse. Now because of the Olympics it's unlikely a big name holds out or wants out this year. But, scenario 1 - Dahlin asks for a trade and the team quits all around with that news. scenario 2 - injury injury injury. There's no depth. We lose Tage and Dahlin we are sunk. We lose all the injury prone at the same time we are likely sunk. scenario 3 - the goaltending is not just bad but garbage scenario 4 - Ruff starts to get frustrated, starts to grind them and they quit on him. All very possible along with sophomore slumps or Quinn still sucking and so forth. Possible success above last year's level hangs by a thread here.

What an a$$. Thats 10 drinks in your system within an hour. On a Thursday at 430pm when people are trying to get home from work, and buses are bringing kids home. AND he had kids in the car. Should be fired on the spot. And I find it hard to believe this was a one off incident and zero people in the organization had any idea there was a problem.

The legal system does. The Sabres do not.

I get it. But you still have to rely on due process.

Yeah, the breathalyzer lies. 😞

Innocent until proven guilty?

Thinking about this, it’s almost like GMKA is gathering an additional dart to throw if UPL washes out again like he did last year. It’s not ideal as UPL is the only real plan the Sabres have. But if he returns to NHL average, this helps out Rochester a lot (Sandstrom as the backup last year was meh at best).

I always just keep pushing mine out, and eventually the phone makes an executive decision to update and then restart it for me.... That night was Monday, when I was expecting a call from a Pulmonologist and I gave the transfer center my cell number to call because I don't know where in the hospital I'll be most of my shift. Guess who was super annoyed with me when the nurses couldn't find me after my phone went to voicemail because of the stupid update at 1am. While I was up in the ICU taking care of some things, grrrr

I think they’re loading up for the Amerks to be GOOD. Heck of an offseason for Karmanos. While he did not replace the goals of Murray or Jobst…he beefed up the roster, added a pugilist, upgraded the blue line, and greatly upgraded G2. It’s clearto me Rosen will be waived and hopefully slip back to ROC (I think that’s likely) to join Konsta & Östlund for offensive production. I’m excited!

These suspensions were from an agreement between the league and the PA. If there's any question about rights, I'd imagine that was addressed in the agreement as well.

There is a real confusion right know on whether these guys teams still have their rights or not. It’s a complicated situation. Some young guys made bad decisions. They were judged in a court of law to be innocent. We don’t know exactly what happened and what didn’t. The judge found the woman to be unconvincing. Should the players be blackballed or given a second chance? The NHL is giving them another chance. Coach Q and Bowman got second chances. I don’t need the Sabres to sign any of them. McLeod’s brother would be the only one I would be interested in. Hart I think will have plenty of suitors.

So Adams has gone from years of pencilling Levi in as the NHL goalie to now putting guys in place to keep Levi from the NHL. And I have no problem with Levi starting in the AHL again but this was not Adam’s plan 2 years ago. Shows how clueless he is. I agree with some others that this probably means someone is injured in net right now and this is an insurance plan.

Hmmm. Someone isn't ready for the preseason. Because he's not an upgrade on anyone except Lyon, and Lyon is a proven backup who knows how to sit for a time and come in and give you .900.

Yeah, still not fully getting this move. Guess Adams is thinking what better way to clear up 3 ???'s at G than by adding a 4th?

If true, yikes!

Kinda seems like an insurance policy against Lyon being a complete washout, understanding that Lyon himself is an insurance policy against a 2nd year of UPL crashing and burning.

IDK - they’re not saying anything that isn’t already plainly obvious to Tuch and his agent IMHO.

I suspect the market showed no one else was signing Georgiev to an NHL contract to be a backup, so chances are good he will clear.

The way to avoid that is to not keep Levi up. They didn’t have to waive anyone in that scenario. Now they are essentially guaranteed to be waiving a veteran… unless they carry UPL, Lyon, and Georgiev, which is clearly not happening. I’m a bit surprised it didn’t happen as a PTO, but I’m really not all that concerned about it.