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I think the league only steps in if there's bankruptcy issues which there isn't. From their perspective a rich owner is a rich owner and the league value of teams keeps rising so they really don't care. The NFL doesn't take over the Jets right? They should, but they don't and they won't. I think our only hope is he either has health issues with old age and decides to retire or he just gets fed up and gives it over to his kids who hire a director of hockey operations and let him run it while they just enjoy their luxury suite and other ownership perks. We have to face the reality that this is Pegula's toy and he's basically like a fantasy team GM but sadly for us he is the de facto GM and he never wins the office pool.

How so? I advocated much more change and wanted more veterans brought in but they didn't do it. I'm just looking at options that might be available still. Trying to be a realist given what we are dealing with from them. If Mitts is available and Bruins would deal him for picks, we have picks, we have cap room to pay his salary and we add a body to the roster so we get a little better. If Bruins want roster players I'm likely not interested.

Beefing him up would have been something the Sabres should have been doing with him early on too. This is part of the whole rushing the prospects problem. Sure, they have skill, but most of them aren't men yet and they get pushed around (or KO'd like Hathaway did to Cozens) and it messes with their heads and their game. We've made the same mistake with Quinn. Anyway, he's Ottawa's problem now. We have to find a way to keep Norris healthy and I have my doubts on that happening.

If Benson puts up 45pts this year, that was a good year for him. That would be where I put his point total over under 44.5o/u

And what to do with Norris? Give him a blonde dye and bowl cut, then grow a mustache, then dye his hair brown and let it get a bit scruffy, and finally grow a full beard. Clad him in denim. Then, unleash him... .. ...on unsuspecting 8-sided shapes, plane hijackers, and under-financed invading armies primarily targeting school buses. And steel yourselves for a whole bunch of Braddock: Missing in Action references this season.

Here is the first ever goal scored by Zach Benson wHo WiLl NeVeR bE aN nHl LeVeL fInIsHeR:

At the End Of Season Dinner ?

This entire thread is embarrassing. Seriously, I just have no idea what else to say.

I think you're right PA. These really are the dog days of hockey.

Offer up 🙏 that he stays healthy.

1, Goal Levi or UPL 2. Power does he emerge as a dominate 2 pairing with Kesslring 3. Jack Quinn.... does he fill the JJP role

One you could be equally as likely to use to lop off your own arse as you are to lop off your opponent's arse? 🤷‍♂️

What's a "two way sword"?

Every world class fight need an undercard. Right? Why not have both? 😉

I fear JohnC is right, is that is what it will take internally, but I am with you, I just dont believe that will happen... the league took over once... I dont think they will do it again, they would likely force a move before that... I will be interested if we again flounder to another playoffless season... what will the attendance be like will it look like NBA arenas pre Bird and Magic... or like the Altanta Thrashers or Cleveland Barrons... will it be acrimonious, home team getting booed every night... Palm trees.. Fire Adams, Sell the team Terry signs all over the place, players wanting out demanding trades... if it does and it might... there is likely gonna be pressure... and there we sit.

This is an article about good and bad contracts and it analyzes Norris's contract https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6537414/2025/08/07/nhl-cap-court-pettersson-saros-chychrun/ Josh Norris, Buffalo Sabres The details: Josh Norris is 26 and entering the fourth year of an eight-year deal he originally signed with the Senators in 2022, which carries a $7.95 million cap hit through 2030. The Sabres acquired him in a deal for Dylan Cozens at least year’s deadline which was not especially well-received. The case that it’s a bad contract: Norris carries the highest cap hit of any Sabres forward, but is coming off consecutive seasons that saw his point total stuck in the 30s while his games played was in the 50s. Injuries have been a big part of his story, including missing all but eight games in 2022-23. He’s basically had one decent season in the NHL (a 35-goal, 55-point sophomore campaign in 2021-22) and has been both paid and hyped based on that single year. But three seasons and one team later, that year feels like an outlier for a disappointing player. The case that it might be OK: Injuries are a two-way sword with this sort of debate. Yes, he has to stay healthy to earn his cap hit, and he hasn’t been able to. But that’s also why his numbers have been lackluster, and if he can get back to full health another 30-goal season seems realistic. He’s not a play-driver, but with a career shooting percentage of 18.1 (including two seasons north of 20), we can at least say that he has the potential to be an elite finisher, which is a hard skill to find in a center. And his teammates in Ottawa loved him. It’s also worth noting Norris does not have any trade protection until next summer, and only a 10-team no-trade list after that, which gives the Sabres some flexibility if they need to reconsider the commitment. And he’ll be 31 when this deal expires, so unlike almost everyone else who shows up in Cap Court, the team isn’t on the hook for a bunch of write-off years at the end. Key comparables: Norris slots in with similarly aged centers like Jack Hughes ($8 million) and Nick Suzuki ($7.85 million); that’s not exactly flattering, but those are also two contracts that are often viewed as solid bargains for their respective teams. Other comparisons would include the Blues duo of Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrou, both at $8.125 million. And of course, Norris will be forever linked with Dylan Cozens, whose deal has the same number of years left but carries a cheaper $7.1 million hit. The ruling: Putting aside who won or lost the trade, this contract feels like a risky bet for the Sabres, even as you can understand why they may have felt like they needed to make it. For now I’m ruling it a bad contract, but Norris will have a fast track to an appeal hearing if he can stay healthy enough to produce a big goal-scoring year.

I'll throw in cash for a kiddie pool if you guys want to buy the jello, Pi and Liger could hash it out in a winner take all backyard Jello wrestle. I suppose we could just get some models too, but this would also be fun 😝😘

Their path to the playoffs... minimum requirements: A goalie emerges as the bona-fide starter and posts a respectable .905 SV% and 2.80 GAA Owen Power becomes a plus player and posts 50 points Josh Norris plays 60 games and post 50 points Quinn, Benson, Kulich combine to score 60g (scored 45 last season) Greenway and Samuelsson play 60 games

Isn’t that kinda what you’re doing?😂

My entire post reads... "I'll say this, if they deploy him on the first line and gets regular PP minutes, he could get close to 60pts." I never said he could approach 60pts on the second line.... in fact, I don't believe he'd get anywhere near 60pts on the second line, 40-45 maybe? Is that up to par with a 2nd line winger on a playoff team? But I understand your argument... you believe he's capable of filling the role of second line wing on a playoff team, putting up 50-55pts, that is... if his linemates aren't low IQ players like Cozens. In my opinion I don't believe he's capable of producing enough offense to fill that role and is better suited as a 3rd line winger with the majority of his minutes targeted on shutting down other teams top lines, PK, situational hockey (end of period/game, etc). It's OK to disagree on his potential as a player, as a fan I hope you're right and he proves me wrong.

He is back practicing, maybe a deal is close.

Funny to see what happens when your president messes everything up only to "TACO" and now everything has finally gotten back to pre-Trump levels. The only problem is the damage is done, the price increases from his destruction will never go back down. So the American people will forever be paying for his tarrif debacle. All you are good for is eyerolls apparently.

So you don’t like him?

We are in hockey doldrums. The big off season moves are over and most fans are skeptical on Adams and Ruff The Bills have all the buzz in town, as usual. New season, Josh Allen, Hard Knocks, etc. Tre White is back but the goalie camp remains closed. The Sabres season tickets are down to 9,000 and Canadians are not coming over nearly as much. Terry Pegula is basking in Bills fever and he made a somewhat telling comment last week.. His comment on the Bills was “ you don’t have to micro-manage when you have competent people running things”.