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No they don’t since they don’t operate the team the team is under NLL “AI Overview The Rochester Knighthawks are currently seeking new ownership after Terry and Kim Pegula, who also own the Buffalo Bandits, Buffalo Sabres, and Rochester Americans, decided to cease operating the team. “

Sounds like situation will work out with a happy ending.

FTFY

Meh...UPL was just really bad last year, that's really all there is to it. He was unfocused game to game and was out of position far too often. Way too many "AHL" level goals against him last year. Did they allow too many chances, sure, but they did the year before too when he was far better. It's not like they went from being the Great Wall Of China on D to a sieve.

I don't know about that. I think most owners do prioritize winning but money does matter. Most believe you spend to win and then you make more with playoff revenue and merchandise (and season tickets the next year). If an owner doesn't spend to the cap he saves a few million. If he makes the playoffs he earns a whole bunch of millions more. It's never about spending anyway, it's about roster construction. To get a balanced and properly mixed roster you do need to spend and when you don't, you have a problem.

Well some of these stats argue against them being decisive then right? Who picks up the most loser points might be more significant.

Rumor has it that TPEGS fought very hard to find owners that would keep the team in Rochester.

I heard he fought Jake Paul but it never aired b c Jake got his ass beat.

Well, +1 is the very least you can be over even. They weren't outscoring the opposition. Just like this past season where they had a top offense 5-on-5 but still finished the year with a negative differential. Terrible defense outdoes good offense. In the case of 2023-24, though, it looks like the underlying concern is loser points. The two teams that made the playoffs as wild cards were the Islanders and Capitals. Experienced defense-first grinding teams that scored less, but got to overtime. That season, the Sabres picked up 6 loser points (and missed the playoffs by 8). Detroit (+4 goal differential) also didn't make it and had 9 loser points, losing the tiebreaker with WSH. Isles -17 goals, but nabbed 16 loser points and the Caps at a gaudy -37 goal differential !!! snuck into the final WC spot tied with Detroit but won the breaker -- had 11 loser points. They had two losses that got them past Detroit. The Sabres had the same number of regulation wins as the Isles and finished 10 points back in the standings. Because of the scoring system, if you keep the game 1-1 it's more advantageous over the length of the season than trying to run-and-gun to 5 goals. If you lose, lose big -- and in all other games, grind it out.

If I ever experience that in this house, I’ll let you know.

Okay but if that stats explains it why'd they not make the playoffs in 2023-24?

Let's hope this ownership group doesn't have plans to move the team like the last one did. Doubt they do but the owner that bought the previous version of the Kin-ig-hit Hawks moved them out of town pretty much as soon as he could.

Great for the city of Rochester and the Seneca Nation (if true). Seems right that Seneca should own a NLL franchise, considering the origins of the sport. Can TPegs yield positive Karma from this genuinely positive development. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1204946438317251&id=100064057172774&mibextid=wwXIfr

Sorry he was Sabres Live, kept trying to figure it was hat shadows, but no he seems to be sporting some shiners

It's the lack of noise that can be unnerving.

Also shades of Putin. And with Netanyahu making moves to fire the attorney general who is prosecuting him, we can add him to the mix as well.

I think I may have been thrown off by you using the word spectrum. I think we agree there's little doubt we should be more physical and harder to push around. The question mark, for me is, will they fill out the other definitions of being tougher. Will they play for each other, stand up for each other, protect a lead, go to the net, etc. I think they will and if they do, will more than make up for Pererka's goals.

Texas redistricting is just more control over the voting ability of the people of America. Losing your ability to actually effect an outcome as a voter effects everyone and it wont help the American people.

The topic is simply being addressed from a wider perspective. (As you point out.) Multiple players can offset, make up compensate (whatever word one chooses to use) the goals differential. And the differential can also be calculated from the prevention side of the equation. It basically two sides of the same coin. If a strict rule of comparison is going to be applied in this topic then it shouldn't be permissible to add to the discussion of the players received in the trade (Doan and Kesserling) contributing to preventing goals if the trade didn't happen. Sometimes in the discussion of a topic the discussion strays from the strict stating of the topic. That's the nature of discourse i.e. it gets broaden. I don't see what the problem is.

The Knighthawks will be staying in Rochester. Presser tomorrow. Sounds like the Seneca Nation will own the team.

Goals allowed, with rank in league and goal differential shown 2024-25 287 (29th) -22 2023-24 243 (11th) +1 2022-23 297 (26th) -4 2021-22 287 (25th) -58 2020-21 196 (T-29th) -62 2019-20 215 (T-20th) with EDM -22 (EDM was +8)

Okay in all seriousness, to the stats people, we all see the periodic stats about goals in first periods and 5v5 this and that and above expected here and there and all the rest BUT, what is the stat or stats that explains analytically, why Sabres always lose on the season and miss the playoffs? What's the strictly analytical explanation?

I was more thinking a sacrifice bunt to move the runner to 3rd who subsequently tripped broke his toe and got tagged out to end the game... he was the star player nd was lost for the rest of the season... or something depressing like that LOL...

They don't have to replace it. They can offset it.

You are talking about goal differential. That is certainly a worthwhile discussion and worthy of it's own thread, but we are talking about how the Sabres replace the lost output.