Peters says Levi has asked to be moved

[Eleven]

1 hour ago, triumph_communes said:

Tragedy in paradise 

 

26 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

That's exactly the reaction Peters looks for.

 

Well, except it's actually "Tragedeigh," and she's a dancer in a club called "Paradise."

[DarthEbriate]

38 minutes ago, pastajoe said:

Lyons and Ellis are both 6’1” and under 200 lbs.

Georgiev 6'1", Ratzlaff 6'1", Levi 6'0". Every goalie on the Amerks is shorter.

They've got some futures who are taller: Prokhorov 6'3", Meloche 6'3", Leenders 6'2", Leinonen 6'5"

[PerreaultForever]

If it's true. If he wants to be moved, just move him. Solves the the too many goalies issue. This team needs to start acting like a real franchise. Ditch him if he don't like it. He didn't earn it, so it's not his. We keep Ellis that way. 

[Weave]

18 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

If it's true. If he wants to be moved, just move him. Solves the the too many goalies issue. This team needs to start acting like a real franchise. Ditch him if he don't like it. He didn't earn it, so it's not his. We keep Ellis that way. 

I don’t think they should move him. At least not this year.  Ellis likely doesn’t clear waivers when the 3 headed monster is resolved.  Levi is important for Rochester whether he likes it or not.

[Jorcus]

13 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

If it's true. If he wants to be moved, just move him. Solves the the too many goalies issue. This team needs to start acting like a real franchise. Ditch him if he don't like it. He didn't earn it, so it's not his. We keep Ellis that way. 

He might not be that easy to move. He has 2 year one way contract for a bit over 800k. Across the ice from him tonight. Hunter Sheppard. 2 time Calder cup winner and lead the AHL in goals against one year. Left the Caps to sign with Ottawa on a 1 year 2 way contract. Levi must be asking himself, is that my future?

[Archie Lee]

3 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

Levi isn't 6'5" tall and 225 like UPL.

This Sabres braintrust really, REALLY like size in goalies.

Its like....if you are on the 'smallish' size as a goalie, you need to prove it to them, then prove it again, then put up great numbers again and again and maybe you'll get your shot.  But if you are BIG, "just go in the net, its yours to lose" despite your numbers.

With that said, very small sample size for Levi, but what I have seen hasn't been all that impressive.

I don’t think the evidence supports this. They traded one of their best players for Levi. Then they gave Levi two chances to run with an NHL job, much earlier than pretty much any other NHL team would have. Comrie, Lyon, Georgiev, and Ellis are all small goalies by NHL standards. So are recent draft picks Ratzlaff and Leenders.  UPL’s 2023-24 season dwarfs anything Levi has done in his career; perhaps it didn’t justify the contract, but it would have been some kind of weird if UPL didn’t get an opportunity to be the starter last year. And, all indications are that Lyon is now the starter.  

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Archie Lee

[PromoTheRobot]

FYI: for everyone who thinks UPL's contract makes him unmovable, Elliotte Friedman called UPL's deal "at par with an NHL backup."

[Archie Lee]

4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

FYI: for everyone who thinks UPL's contract makes him unmovable, Elliotte Friedman called UPL's deal "at par with an NHL backup."

Lankinen is the only “back-up” goalie I can think of who signed that level of contract. The other goalies who are back-ups and make UPL or better money, are guys whose games have fallen apart (Grubauer, Merzlikins, Jarry). Maybe Lankinen’s deal is an indication of where back-up goalie salaries are headed with an increasing cap. a 4.75 AAV is still a little rich for a back-up though, I think. 

[Two or less]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

If it's true. If he wants to be moved, just move him. Solves the the too many goalies issue. This team needs to start acting like a real franchise. Ditch him if he don't like it. He didn't earn it, so it's not his. We keep Ellis that way. 

 

How does that solve too many goalies issue?

[spndnchz]

Congrats on the first post Peters

[Doohickie]

4 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I don't honestly care. 

This is the way.

I really think one of our 5-headed goalie monster is destined to be part of a trade.  My gut feel is that they want to give UPL some visibility not to so much show what he's capable of, but to demonstrate to a potential suitor that he has recovered from his injury.  He's played well in stretches and might be worth taking on (if the Sabres retain) to see if a change of scenery unleashes his potential.

Another scenario is to work him back in as a back up and if he pulls his weight then trade young Ellis.

But either way, I can see Levi being disgruntled.  It isn't just that UPL is ahead of him in the pecking order, it's that the organization brought in two more goalies and he is definitely behind Lyon at this point, and likely behind Ellis in terms of depth.  I know they can't move Ellis to the AHL without clearing waivers so it might be that in the overall scheme of things Levi is ahead of Ellis in terms of what the Sabres feel about him but due to contracts he's stuck in the A.

[Doohickie]

2 hours ago, Weave said:

I don’t think they should move him. At least not this year.  Ellis likely doesn’t clear waivers when the 3 headed monster is resolved.  Levi is important for Rochester whether he likes it or not.

Ah, but UPL with his salary probably would clear waivers.

 

 

Just sayin'.

[Pimlach]

Just more internet garbage.  Levi has nothing to say about anything.  
 

He can work his way up from #4 whenever he chooses to do so.  

[matter2003]

6 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

If I were Levi, I'd be upset.

UPL got parachuted into the NHL with sub-par AHL numbers and has by and large sucked in the NHL, whereas Levi has always done well in the AHL but he has had far fewer chances on a far shorter leash in the NHL.  

When you continually post worse numbers every chance you are given and last year posted complete trash numbers of .878 and 4.12, you have nobody to blame but yourself. He has every chance to take the job...actually perform when given the opportunity instead of puking all over yourself.

Edited 4 hours ago by matter2003

[PerreaultForever]

4 hours ago, Weave said:

I don’t think they should move him. At least not this year.  Ellis likely doesn’t clear waivers when the 3 headed monster is resolved.  Levi is important for Rochester whether he likes it or not.

I'm not waiving Ellis, I'm waiving UPL. 

Levi? I don't care. If he doesn't want to be here F him. It's time to stop worrying about players feelings and make it just about winning. 

4 hours ago, Jorcus said:

He might not be that easy to move. He has 2 year one way contract for a bit over 800k. Across the ice from him tonight. Hunter Sheppard. 2 time Calder cup winner and lead the AHL in goals against one year. Left the Caps to sign with Ottawa on a 1 year 2 way contract. Levi must be asking himself, is that my future?

Well then you just leave him in Rochester. Too bad for him. 

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, Two or less said:

 

How does that solve too many goalies issue?

Lyon backed up by Ellis in Buffalo

UPL and Georgiev in Rochester. (If UPL is claimed, all the better, cap money to spend on a top 6 forward added to the other cap money they have)

 

[PerreaultForever]

50 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Just more internet garbage.  Levi has nothing to say about anything.  
 

He can work his way up from #4 whenever he chooses to do so.  

It's probably internet bs but if true get him out of here. 

The second sentence most definitely. The mantra should be if you earn it you earn it. When they sent Dunne back I felt they were not living up to the best player earns it idea since he outplayed several people in preseason but they have given him a shot now at least. Has to hold for all players. Be the best and you get your shot. Beat out a guy who is here to stay here. 

[Kristian]

Dude has proven absolutely nothing so far.