Final Roster - Any Surprises ?

[GASabresIUFAN]

Right now we have 4 players on IR - Greenway, Power, Kesselring and UPL

Who goes when they come back?

Our extra players are 2 goalies (Ellis and Georgiev), 2 forwards (Geeraten & Kozak) and arguably 1 D if we keep only 7 D in Buffalo (Bryson or Johnson)

If I were making the decisions:

Greenway in for Kozak

Kesselring in for Georgiev

Power in for Bryson

UPL in for Ellis 

[Brawndo]

Power is skating in a non contact jersey and Alexandar Georgiev is not on the ice. On waivers perhaps? 

[Porous Five Hole]

2 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Power is skating in a non contact jersey and Alexandar Georgiev is not on the ice. On waivers perhaps? 

Apartment hunting in Rochester 

[dudacek]

8 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Power is skating in a non contact jersey and Alexandar Georgiev is not on the ice. On waivers perhaps? 

It's almost like the couldn't get him to sign a PTO, so they paid him a year's salary to essentially be on one.

 

[Pimlach]

6 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I think that's a problem. If you aren't willing to defend yourself or you teammates because Gertie is sitting on the bench, your team is going to be weaker not stronger. Not saying that's what will happen but toughness is a team effort. 

True, but I got tired of seeing those 3 having to drop them and no one else (accept maybe Clifton) and certainly no follow up (see Noeson and Thompson).  

Ruff wants to carry a tough guy, yet he didn't put Gilbert on the ice after Thompson got nailed, he wanted to score a goal.  That was fine, but Gilbert never even got a shift after that.  Why carry Gertie if that is how he is going to use him?   

Edited yesterday at 06:07 PM by Pimlach

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

What's funny is this team could have Bernard-Docker or Grezlyc for basically the same money but went with Jones and Bryson. Just amazing how much they mismanaged the easy parts. 

It sure seems that Adams loves to work on, 5/6/7/8 defenders, fourth line forwards, and backup goalies.  Could that be why they don't get better? 

[ponokasabre]

32 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Power is skating in a non contact jersey and Alexandar Georgiev is not on the ice. On waivers perhaps? 

Great to hear about Power, he should be "fingers crossed" ready for Thursday

[French Collection]

Just now, Pimlach said:

True, but I got tired of seeing those 3 having to drop them and no one else (accept maybe Clifton) and certainly no follow up (see Noeson and Thompson).  

You forgot the willing lightweight Krebs.

[dudacek]

31 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

It sure seems that Adams loves to work on, 5/6/7/8 defenders, fourth line forwards, and backup goalies.  Could that be why they don't get better? 

I'm not prepared to dig in again, but the number of 6-9 defencemen that have come through here over Adams' tenure is off the charts long.

Edited yesterday at 03:54 PM by dudacek

[shrader]

45 minutes ago, dudacek said:

It's almost like the couldn't get him to sign a PTO, so they paid him a year's salary to essentially be on one.

 

So if they mutually agree to part ways and then the contract doesn’t get paid, it winds up essentially as a PTO. I don’t know, I get NHL or nothing vibes from this one and now that they’re not interested, he’ll leave. 

[Pimlach]

Just now, French Collection said:

You forgot the willing lightweight Krebs.

He scraps, he defends himself, he agitates, but his is not going to deter someone from taking liberties.  Same with Benson and a few others.  

The team needs a fighter that can play a regular shift.  

[shrader]

40 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

True, but I got tired of seeing those 3 having to drop them and no one else (accept maybe Clifton) and certainly no follow up (see Noeson and Thompson).  

Ruff wants to carry a tough guy, yet he didn't put Gilbert on the ice after Thompson got nailed, he wanted to score a goal.  That was fine, but Gilbert bever even got a shift after that.  Why carry Gertie if that is how he is going to use him?   

It’s easier to write off one of 12 forward slots than it is 1 of 6 on D. Were they down any D back when all of that happened?

 

Im not crazy about carrying the guy, but I could see him shuttling back and forth a lot. Is he Rempe insurance for game 1 and then he’s down already?

[Thorny]

39 minutes ago, dudacek said:

I'm not prepared to dig in again, but the number of 6-9 defencemen that have come through here over Adams' tenure is off the charts long.

[DarthEbriate]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

I'm not prepared to dig in again, but the number of 6-9 defencemen that have come through here over Adams' tenure is off the charts long.

The amount of churn is ridiculous -- even at a group of positions where you would expect churn. But what is the most damning of it is how many of them were brought in and immediately inserted higher in the lineup than that, plus Bryson has been here the entire time holding one of those slots and cannot be improved upon. (And again, that's not to disparage Bryson who is a valid 8-9 tweener guy, depending on the rest of the roster construction.)

And he started with a D-corps that had Montour and McCabe (and Ristolainen, though the trade return was excellent). And he got Matt Irwin!

[dudacek]

So very quietly, with the opening night rosters in place, the Sabres have come in at $2.1 million under the cap.

They've spent more than 20 other teams.

https://puckpedia.com/

 

[LGR4GM]

13 minutes ago, dudacek said:

So very quietly, with the opening night rosters in place, the Sabres have come in at $2.1 million under the cap.

They've spent more than 20 other teams.

https://puckpedia.com/

 

They'll drop about 7 spots once Georgiev clears waivers. 

[LGR4GM]

 

 

Running Bryson with Power is peek favoritism. Wonder if they comes from Ruff, Wilford, Adams, or Pegula?

[ponokasabre]

22 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

Running Bryson with Power is peek favoritism. Wonder if they comes from Ruff, Wilford, Adams, or Pegula?

It has to be Adams or Pegula, it truly is insane, like I actually cannot understand the logic here.

I also cant understand the logic when your 3 toughest players are Greenway Kesserling and Geertsen, and you will be playing a pissed of Rangers team that will have Rempe playing, and two of those 3 are injured....you dont put Geertsen in? Absolutely insane

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

So very quietly, with the opening night rosters in place, the Sabres have come in at $2.1 million under the cap.

They've spent more than 20 other teams.

https://puckpedia.com/

 

That number still has Georgiev's contract counting against the cap.  It's only ~$875k so it'll go bye bye when he clears waivers.  Back up to $3MM in space.  

[LGR4GM]

43 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

It has to be Adams or Pegula, it truly is insane, like I actually cannot understand the logic here.

I also cant understand the logic when your 3 toughest players are Greenway Kesserling and Geertsen, and you will be playing a pissed of Rangers team that will have Rempe playing, and two of those 3 are injured....you dont put Geertsen in? Absolutely insane

I don't think Greenway is tough. Also if your team has to ice Geertsen because of Rempe, your team has giant problems.

[DarthEbriate]

For myself, I'm much less worried about Geertsen being in the lineup here and there for feigned toughness (Ruff only dressed him for 25 games [and 5 fights] four seasons ago) than I am that somehow Johnson hasn't displaced Bryson in the lineup. The ol' eye test, the draft pedigree (and solid defensive career at Minnesota and Rochester), the size/weight, and that Power needs a defense-first partner.... It doesn't add up. 

Complete speculation: maybe he's just one of those guys who is just not impressive in practice/meetings, but get him in a game and he gives you low-event hockey, which is perfect for a 7D.

Edited 1 hour ago by DarthEbriate

[Porous Five Hole]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Also relevant to this is Power shed his non-contact jersey indicating he’s good to go.  

[ponokasabre]

4 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Also relevant to this is Power shed his non-contact jersey indicating he’s good to go.  

The only positive take I can get here is maybe they think Kesserling wont be out long and that's why its Bryson playing, they want to keep all the other D pairs the same cause Kess maybe can play on the weekend?

 

I don't know if that's the case but that's me hoping

[Porous Five Hole]

5 minutes ago, ponokasabre said:

The only positive take I can get here is maybe they think Kesserling wont be out long and that's why its Bryson playing, they want to keep all the other D pairs the same cause Kess maybe can play on the weekend?

 

I don't know if that's the case but that's me hoping

This makes sense to me. 

[LGR4GM]

Then why wouldn't Ryan Johnson play with Power? He's shown to be better than Bryson is every preseason game.