Trade Conor Timmins and Isaac Belliveau from the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Connor Clifton and the 39th overall pick in the 2025 NHL Draft.

[Brawndo]

Most importantly he is a life long Bills Fan 

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Alternately, Dahlin-Kesselring / Power-JBD / Samuelsson-Timmins.    I don't think that's as good as bridging Byram.

Yea but add in Byram and that defense core looks better

Just now, Brawndo said:

Most importantly he is a life long Bills Fan 

I have no questions

[Rasmus_]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Yea but add in Byram and that defense core looks better

I have no questions

Until he's traded because our owner is cheap. 

[ponokasabre]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Yea but add in Byram and that defense core looks better

Keep Byram, and get rid of Samuelssen and add Hague and that looks so good!

[Scottysabres]

Just now, Brawndo said:

Most importantly he is a life long Bills Fan 

Just secured another PSL? Shrewd marketing technique on Terry’s part, but that yacht isn’t going to pay for itself

[Turbo44]

1 minute ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

Sabres fans complain to just whine and complain.  I get being jaded,  but this move makes this team better and gets rid of a give away machine.  He is not a superstar but a solid 4-6 that plays well and moves the puck decent.  Definitely an upgrade over Clifton. You know you are all right,  we need another player that may or may not help in 4 years.  🙄

I like all 3 guys we traded for so far, though I think all 3 are best suited for bottom of the lineup. Again, we have a ton of cap space but are we going to use it and how. Jaro got Gadreau to go to CLB, maybe he can work magic on Marner or Ehlers. 

[...]

The pervading side-story of this draft cycle is that big, RHD are difficult to come by. Okay, so Adams is stocking up on RHD. They are assets. We put the best one on the roster and the rest can be used any other way you'd use a desirable asset. It's Adams, but objectively the strategy is sound.

[WhenWillItEnd66]

Just now, Turbo44 said:

I like all 3 guys we traded for so far, though I think all 3 are best suited for bottom of the lineup. Again, we have a ton of cap space but are we going to use it and how. Jaro got Gadreau to go to CLB, maybe he can work magic on Marner or Ehlers. 

You need good bottom 6 players too. Especially tenacious ones.  We got bigger and more physical.  Now if they do not stick check we win! 

[DarthEbriate]

4 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

I'd rather keep Byram on a 5 year over extension and force Power to push his ability to steal the PP2 over watching something gross like a Samuelsson Timmins bottom pair.  I'm sorry, if anyone things Samuelsson Timmins is an improvement I'm baffled.  Samuelsson misses an average of 30 games, and Timmins piqued last season. 

Can I interest you in Bryson - Timmins when Muel is injured?

[Rasmus_]

Just now, DarthEbriate said:

Can I interest you in Bryson - Timmins when Muel is injured?

Congrats, I forgot about Bryson, there's another guy that should have been non-tendered.

[Taro T]

Just now, ... said:

The pervading side-story of this draft cycle is that big, RHD are difficult to come by. Okay, so Adams is stocking up on RHD. They are assets. We put the best one on the roster and the rest can be used any other way you'd use a desirable asset. It's Adams, but objectively the strategy is sound.

Yeah, we blew right through the Murray portion of the Kevyn Adams 1 Man 3 GM show into the Jason Botterill all your RHDs belong to us phase of the show.  Did not expect to see that heading into the weekend.  Thought we'd stay on the Tim Murray overpay for what we want portion of the program a bit longer than we did.

[WhenWillItEnd66]

2 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Can I interest you in Bryson - Timmins when Muel is injured?

No,  call up Johnson.  He can play defense.  He looked decent with his Sabres stint.  People seem to overlook him

Edited 5 hours ago by WhenWillItEnd66

[DarthEbriate]

2 minutes ago, ... said:

The pervading side-story of this draft cycle is that big, RHD are difficult to come by. Okay, so Adams is stocking up on RHD. They are assets. We put the best one on the roster and the rest can be used any other way you'd use a desirable asset. It's Adams, but objectively the strategy is sound.

So... goaltending. Someone tell him you need proven NHL starting goaltending. And top line centers who can stand up to Bennett and outscore Barkov.

1 minute ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

No,  call up Johnson.  He can play defense.  He looked decent with his Sabres stint.  People seem to overlook him

The Sabres brass overlooks him, certainly. Bryson can always be waived (unlikely to be claimed) and Johnson gets the LHD 7/8 role. But, then... why extend Bryson with months to go before UFA?

[JP51]

So here is where I am at... not gonna lament a 2 that might not help us before 2030 ... not gonna get excited over the player... could care less about Clifton he was a serviceable body. Bottom line KA trying to save his job if these are genius moves or help us in the short term in a moderate to solid way good for him. If they are bush league he may be closer to out the door. Right now we are vasillating between a on the fly retool to get better to a full tear down if the gut the FO and they decide to rebuild. Adams has done damage to this team and we can do nothing about it... he has been given the keys to the assets and Adams gonna Adams... so speculation to me at this point that's nice... just show me the baby and let's see what happens. But to fret he is gonna devoid us of solid assets for nothing or too little doesn't help me anymore... cause I can't change it... the wildfire is burning and its uncontained and I can do nothing to put it out. So... take your shot Kev and let's see the results. 

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, DarthEbriate said:

So... goaltending. Someone tell him you need proven NHL starting goaltending. And top line centers who can stand up to Bennett and outscore Barkov.

A fearing it's Demko and Petterson for Bryam, a 1st, UPL, and a prospect (Helenius?).  Really like the idea of getting Demko.  Hate the idea of Adams being the guy thinking he's smart enough to get Petterson back to what he was prior to signing that big contract.

[PromoTheRobot]

11 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

Sabres fans complain to just whine and complain.  I get being jaded,  but this move makes this team better and gets rid of a give away machine.  He is not a superstar but a solid 4-6 that plays well and moves the puck decent.  Definitely an upgrade over Clifton. You know you are all right,  we need another player that may or may not help in 4 years.  🙄

This was my favorite Connor Clifton moment. This led to a 2-on-1 goal. 😂

Live long, King!

[Mr. Allen]

32 minutes ago, Eleven said:

They don't mean much.  

 

I can’t stand when people say that.  There are a lot of very good 2nd round picks out there.  
Kucherov.  Aho.  Robertson.  Peterka.  Kyrou.  Hintz.  Hutson.  
imagine if their GM was an idiot and traded away that 2nd round pick because it “doesn’t mean much”.  

[WhenWillItEnd66]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

This was my favorite Connor Clifton moment. This led to a 2-on-1 goal. 😂

Live long, King!

That blue line can trip you up.  I actually like our defense upgrade.  Now get a top 6 forward that can forecheck and we are really better

[Rasmus_]

 I will gladly eat crow if Timmins plays to a positive CORSI and shows out.  I'll also eat crow if Samuelsson is healthy all year, and doesn't get hurt lifting a fork.

[WhenWillItEnd66]

Just now, Rasmus_ said:

 I will gladly eat crow if Timmins plays to a positive CORSI and shows out.  I'll also eat crow if Samuelsson is healthy all year, and doesn't get hurt lifting a fork.

Ok I am team positive, but you are asking for alot!!! Lol

[Thorny]

14 minutes ago, Rasmus_ said:

Until he's traded because our owner is cheap. 

We need to trade him for a forward 

[DarthEbriate]

Just now, Taro T said:

A fearing it's Demko and Petterson for Bryam, a 1st, UPL, and a prospect (Helenius?).  Really like the idea of getting Demko.  Hate the idea of Adams being the guy thinking he's smart enough to get Petterson back to what he was prior to signing that big contract.

Norris?

I don't think they can fit Pettersson, Norris, McLeod, Dahlin, and Power's contracts -- and extend Tuch, too, for next year.

But, a quality EEE team doesn't get Pettersson and stays safely $6-10M under the cap. 😇

[Rasmus_]

1 minute ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

Ok I am team positive, but you are asking for alot!!! Lol

You're asking me a lot to believe in bums like Samuelsson and Timmins.

[Turbo44]

Fairburn doesn't like the trade. Thinks Timmins and Clifton are similar, Belliveau is a zero and the Sabres gave away a high 2nd round pick. He says KA loves giving away 2nd's for nothing (trading a 2nd for Mallienstein last year). KA's scouts much love him

[GoPuckYourself]

If this was just a cap savings season and we barely spend any money i won't watch a single game that I gaurantee, I took a few years off a few years back and I'd have no problems doing it again.