Sabres Trade JJ Peterka to Utah for Defenseman Michael Kesselring and Forward Josh Doan

[Brawndo]

For Funsies here is Dahlin’s 

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Evolving Hockey is cited as a source for The Athletic Player Cards. 
 

Here is the data from EV’s Website as well as Hockey Viz. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm being too hard on power 

[Brawndo]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

I'm being too hard on power 

There is runway left with him to develop. The organization has not put him in position to succeed. An ECHL Level coach in Wilford, taking until this offseason to potentially find him a partner. 

[LGR4GM]

7 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

There is runway left with him to develop. The organization has not put him in position to succeed. An ECHL Level coach in Wilford, taking until this offseason to potentially find him a partner. 

Totally stunned Ruff has kept Wilford around. He's failed every year he's been here. 

[JohnC]

5 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

There is runway left with him to develop. The organization has not put him in position to succeed. An ECHL Level coach in Wilford, taking until this offseason to potentially find him a partner. 

That should have been a priority when he was first drafted. It would have helped in his development, and it would have made the team better by solidifying the second pairing that gets a lot of playing time. And other related issues are who is going to be paired with Dahlin and if Byram is traded how will the pairings shake out?

[Turbo44]

10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Totally stunned Ruff has kept Wilford around. He's failed every year he's been here. 

Yeah it makes no sense

[Brawndo]

19 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Totally stunned Ruff has kept Wilford around. He's failed every year he's been here. 

There may have been one or two people that would have been acceptable for the allocation of additional resources for the coaching staff. One was not interested. 

15 minutes ago, JohnC said:

That should have been a priority when he was first drafted. It would have helped in his development, and it would have made the team better by solidifying the second pairing that gets a lot of playing time. And other related issues are who is going to be paired with Dahlin and if Byram is traded how will the pairings shake out?

This has been a GMKA Talking Point since Power signed his ELC, no action though 

I would trade for Liligren  from San Jose. One of the common trade proposals for Byram before the draft was Liligren and 30th overall. San Jose does have Edmonton’s First this year

[JohnC]

15 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

This has been a GMKA Talking Point since Power signed his ELC, no action though 

I would trade for Liligren  from San Jose. One of the common trade proposals for Byram before the draft was Liligren and 30th overall. San Jose does have Edmonton’s First this year

KA may not be hesitant with his thoughts but he certainly is frozen when he tries to act. It shouldn't be a surprise that when the top of the organizational chart reeks with mediocrity, the results are less than mediocre. A vicious circle that the owner is willing to endure. 

[dudacek]

Random factoid:

Josh Doan played with Owen Power as teenager with the Chicago Steel.

[Archie Lee]

3 hours ago, Brawndo said:

There is runway left with him to develop. The organization has not put him in position to succeed. An ECHL Level coach in Wilford, taking until this offseason to potentially find him a partner. 

In defense of Wilford, re: Power. Didn't a whole boatload of evidence just get posted that shows Power has actually been really good?  Did Wilford decide to not spend money and assets to get Power a veteran D partner the last 3 years?

The Sabres started a new rebuild when Adams fired Kreuger. The next year Granato brought in Wilford as one of his coaches.  From 21-22 through 22-23, progress seemed to be reasonably good for our young defenders and team in general. Prior to 23-24, Adams completely failed to recognize the moment when the team needed to make moves that would position them as a clear playoff team. Instead, he brought in Johnson and Clifton and banked on internal growth. That year the team regressed to 84 points from the previous year's 91; but, it should be noted, the 23-24 pre-season point-projection-models, had the Sabres right around 83-86 points. I would argue that the outlier in the Granato years was not the 23-24 regression, but the surprise 91 point season of 22-23. 

Then, Granato is fired and Ruff is brought in and we see further regression.  In Power's game.  In UPL's game.  In Samuelsson's game.  In Quinn's game.  Did Wilford start sucking (or sucking more) as an assistant? Or, did we hire a 65 year old with 3 playoff appearances in his last 11 as a head coach (2 actual winning seasons), whose recent teams have, pretty consistently if not every year, had bad defensive and goaltending metrics?

I'm not saying they can't do better than Wilford. I don't wish him any ill will, but I don't spend too much time worrying about fired assistant coaches. I'm not directing this at anyone, but to the general fan view that people have of Wilford; that Wilford has become a stand-in for the failings of the Sabres to become a better defensive team, is pretty weak sauce in my view.  

Edited 2 hours ago by Archie Lee

[Thorny]

5 hours ago, Brawndo said:

There is runway left with him to develop. The organization has not put him in position to succeed. An ECHL Level coach in Wilford, taking until this offseason to potentially find him a partner. 

Reinhart on D 

Don’t trade him or live to regret 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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