Stanley Cup! 2025

[Jorcus]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

My first quibble is that this stat is looking back all the way to his rookie season. It probably looks better in his time with the Panthers. It also shades the fact he has been a good playoff performer by eliminating those stats from this chart. I can't deny Bennett is a low percentage shooter but he makes up for that by being one of the leaders in shots on goal. He probably will get overpaid for his overall output but that's what happens when you are a clutch performer.     

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32 minutes ago, inkman said:

Yeah I figured it out.  I’m guessing Micah’s target audience is accustomed to see these types of charts so it’s a familiar language to them. It takes me a couple minutes to figure out which colors are good and which colors are bad. 
 

Typically, red is bad in most areas of life.  So I have to recalibrate my brain to red being good and blue, a neutral to positive color, is now bad.  

Blue = cold ❄️. Red = hot 🔥. 

You never played "Hide the Thimble"?

[inkman]

51 minutes ago, ... said:

Blue = cold ❄️. Red = hot 🔥. 

You never played "Hide the Thimble"?

No but I’ve had a couple rounds with hide the salami.  Is it similar? 😎

[Believer]

14 hours ago, K012010 said:

I’m down here too. And totally agree. They’re exactly what I want the Sabres to be.

Yep. Me, too. I’m in Sarasota eight years now. Panthers are my second home team.

[Thorny]

6 hours ago, ... said:

Sorry, McDavid has the charisma of an old shoe. Sure, his personal stats are great, but the league and NHL media have been shoving this guy down our throats since well before he was drafted. That alone is enough to be sick of hearing the name "McDavid", but combined with the flatness of his presentation, the roster of dooshy players surrounding him, I am far from compelled to root for the guy. 

 

 

He’s the best player of all time, comps to Josh Allen need not apply. But yes he can be fun to root against 

[PerreaultForever]

5 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Sam Bennett shoots below average just about every spot on the ice. 

Blue is below average

White is average

Red is above average

Once again proving that analytics have less value than many people believe. 

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2 hours ago, Thorny said:

He’s the best player of all time, comps to Josh Allen need not apply. But yes he can be fun to root against 

I have a problem with the bolded. Again, I get his stats are way whack-a-doo and, to achieve that, he does nifty things on the ice, but, to me, his team needs to win it all for him to earn that crown. I'm not saying this is the correct viewpoint, but it bugs me every time I see it or hear it. Without dragging his team over the finish line, bloody knuckles and broken teeth, he can't possibly be "The Greatest of All Time" - he has to be missing something to truly be that guy. 

Cue: "yeah, he's missing a real team to play on..." which is true. 

**I just thought of this, which will extend the post - sorry, drop out here if you're disgusted beyond repair.**

I liken it to calling a guitarist "the greatest guitarist alive" or something - which is something that obviously can't be quantified in the end because it's art. However, many people back in the day would point to a specimen like Yngwie Malmsteen because he plays lots of notes fast. Or Steve Vai or John Petrucci. But, IMHO, those guys are supremely boring to listen to. 

I'm not going to claim a guy like Sam Bennett is anywhere near "the best" - but I would rather watch him play hockey right now than McDavid - and if that's true McDavid can't possibly be "the greatest of all time."

Once again, I know the argument has flaws and is barely defensible in its current form. If I cared enough I might try and flesh it out one day.

 

[Thorny]

1 hour ago, ... said:

I have a problem with the bolded. Again, I get his stats are way whack-a-doo and, to achieve that, he does nifty things on the ice, but, to me, his team needs to win it all for him to earn that crown. I'm not saying this is the correct viewpoint, but it bugs me every time I see it or hear it. Without dragging his team over the finish line, bloody knuckles and broken teeth, he can't possibly be "The Greatest of All Time" - he has to be missing something to truly be that guy. 

Cue: "yeah, he's missing a real team to play on..." which is true. 

**I just thought of this, which will extend the post - sorry, drop out here if you're disgusted beyond repair.**

I liken it to calling a guitarist "the greatest guitarist alive" or something - which is something that obviously can't be quantified in the end because it's art. However, many people back in the day would point to a specimen like Yngwie Malmsteen because he plays lots of notes fast. Or Steve Vai or John Petrucci. But, IMHO, those guys are supremely boring to listen to. 

I'm not going to claim a guy like Sam Bennett is anywhere near "the best" - but I would rather watch him play hockey right now than McDavid - and if that's true McDavid can't possibly be "the greatest of all time."

Once again, I know the argument has flaws and is barely defensible in its current form. If I cared enough I might try and flesh it out one day.

 

That’s “greatest”. Didn’t say greatest I said best 

No one has played the game of hockey as well as that human.

greatness in sports discussions usually involves relativity to era and career accomplishments 

[K-9]

5 minutes ago, Thorny said:

That’s “greatest”. Didn’t say greatest I said best 

No one has played the game of hockey as well as that human.

greatness in sports discussions usually involves relativity to era and career accomplishments 

The distinction between “greatest” and “best” is greatly appreciated. Especially as they relate to different eras. 

[That Aud Smell]

@Thorny ripping through my posts with multiple negative engagements.

[Thorny]

9 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

@Thorny ripping through my posts with multiple negative engagements.

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1 hour ago, K-9 said:

The distinction between “greatest” and “best” is greatly appreciated. Especially as they relate to different eras. 

What's the distinction when qualified by "of all time"? This isn't a snarky question, curious to know how y'all frame the distinction.

[shrader]

Two days between games sucks, especially when they're played in the same building.

[DarthEbriate]

15 minutes ago, shrader said:

Two days between games sucks, especially when they're played in the same building.

It’s so gross. What are they all doing now? They’ve all forgotten the cross checks and cheap shots days later. 

The regular season should start on 10/1 and end on 4/15. Four playoff series get completed by the end of the first week of June (ideally by 6/1 itself). Second week of June is the combine. Draft the final week. UFA July 1. 

Edited 5 hours ago by DarthEbriate