Jason Robertson rumored to be on the trade block

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said:

To shed any payroll they have to move Robertson or Oettinger.  Johnston i suppose could be an option, but most teams keep young centers more than wingers.  Seguin, Hintz, Heiskanen, and Seguin have full NMC's so they're all likely out on a trade.

Rantanens already among the highest paid wingers in the league.  I don't think it makes sense to then extend robertson and then have the two most expensive wingers in the league.  

Working JJP under is challenging, probably requires Dumba be included, and maybe a 3rd team for Lyubushkin.  It's why it might make more sense for it to be Tuch - with rosen/Östlund, probably this years 1st, and probably next years 1st (maybe you can throw a lottery top 3 protection on it).  

Nuclear option would be they move both Robertson and Oettinger - and then definitely need a 3rd team to accommodate some of the other pieces that would need to be included while getting dallas NHL ready prospects, cheaper contracted players, and a goalie.  Like Dallas doesn't need Byram, but what buffalo gets for byram, plus the above trade, plus levi... etc.  Buffalo would need to shed UPL somewhere too.  The amount of moving parts would be insane.  The stuff madden dreams are made of 🙂

I don't think Tuch makes sense. They'd still have to sign him next summer which is the big problem. 

[ponokasabre]

Id take Robertson and Dumba if thats what it required

 

Im sure you could move Cliffton and have Dumba be that 6/7th defensman for us this year, they are very close to the same player, making the same money

 

But its gotta be Peterka in the trade not Tuch

[shrader]

47 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said:

Duchene averaging a PPG is probably driving the price out of their range imo so he's probably gone.  Benn's 35, and a different player than they had paid so I'd think he can be had for a team-friendly deal.  Granlunds tough because they used a lot of capital to bring him and Ceci in, and he seemed to mesh with Rantanen.  Ceci is also a free agent, but i suppose dumba replaces him with his return from injury.  

As it stands without those guys they only have 5M in cap space, with Lundkvist (I don't really know whats going on with him) and Bourque yet to pay.  

I can't get past the playoff performance from that Benn-Duchene line.  Where that team is right now, they should be targeting playoff performance and it was lacking with those guys.  In that front offices shoes, I'd say it is time to move on.

[Drag0nDan]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

I don't think Tuch makes sense. They'd still have to sign him next summer which is the big problem. 

I think he's the today replacement at a lower cost - maybe less draft comp and another closer to NHL ready guy in the return.  

[Drag0nDan]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

I can't get past the playoff performance from that Benn-Duchene line.  Where that team is right now, they should be targeting playoff performance and it was lacking with those guys.  In that front offices shoes, I'd say it is time to move on.

Thats fair - i just wonder how much more you're going to get from bottom of the barrel agents.  Like if the replacements are sam lafferty with half his contract... uhh you're gonna have a bad time.  

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said:

I think he's the today replacement at a lower cost - maybe less draft comp and another closer to NHL ready guy in the return.  

Dallas has no draft comp to offer

 

[Drag0nDan]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Dallas has no draft comp to offer

 

Sorry, i meant from buffalo - instead of say JJP+Rosen+9, its Tuch+Rosen+Östlund - 2 close to ready prospects in lieu of the 9th pick since Tuch either needs to be extended or is UFA.  

[inkman]

God a competent GM could do this:

Robertson - $7.5 mill

Marchment - $4.5 mill

Dumba - $3.75 mill

Lyubushkin - $3.25 mill

Removes $19 mill for Dallas

9th overall 

Krebs $1.45 mill

Kulich  $.89 mill

Rosen $.89 mill

Clifton $3.3 mill

Stars only bring in less than $7 mill 

 

I know it’s not going to happen but something has to get me through the doldrums of summer.  I know I didn’t address the Sabres salary cap issues after the moves but I’d just do it and figure out the salary stuff later. 

[LGR4GM]

I'll post this here too. 

[inkman]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I'll post this here too. 

They are ripe for the pickin.  Just keep adding things until they say yes. 

[ponokasabre]

24 minutes ago, inkman said:

They are ripe for the pickin.  Just keep adding things until they say yes. 

Yes and there was those rumors last year I think where there was all this smoke that we were close to getting Robertson before he eventually signed in Dallas, I doubt there interest would have lessened 

Adding Robertson would be a truly game changer move 

Still need to address the defense but it would be an elite add

[Eleven]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

God a competent GM could do this:

Robertson - $7.5 mill

Marchment - $4.5 mill

Dumba - $3.75 mill

Lyubushkin - $3.25 mill

Removes $19 mill for Dallas

9th overall 

Krebs $1.45 mill

Kulich  $.89 mill

Rosen $.89 mill

Clifton $3.3 mill

Stars only bring in less than $7 mill 

 

I know it’s not going to happen but something has to get me through the doldrums of summer.  I know I didn’t address the Sabres salary cap issues after the moves but I’d just do it and figure out the salary stuff later. 

I love it but I don't know (and do not feel like looking up) whether the three Dallas players besides Robertson have NMCs.

[Drag0nDan]

Just now, Eleven said:

I love it but I don't know (and do not feel like looking up) whether the three Dallas players besides Robertson have NMCs.

https://puckpedia.com/team/dallas-stars

Wyatt Johnston doesn't have one, neither does Oettinger (yet, his triggers after this season i believe). Rantanen, Seguin, Hintz, Heiskanen and now Duchene all do.  

But 22 year old 2-way centers  who score 30 goals usually don't get traded.  Oettinger could be a target to get cheaper, but he's one of the best goalies in the league.  Harley could potentially move, but at 23yo and 4M averaging 50 points on the blue line - he again feels like a building block more than a trade chip.  

Marchment has a M-NTC so he's not a sabres target, but he can be moved.  I'd assume they move robertson or oettinger in separate deals.  We have pieces that they could use - Levi in an oettinger deal for example, and cost controlled young forwards who are NHL-ready(ish).  

[LGR4GM]

11 minutes ago, Eleven said:

I love it but I don't know (and do not feel like looking up) whether the three Dallas players besides Robertson have NMCs.

Marchment has a 10 team ntc. That's it. 

[ponokasabre]

Marchment may not be getable with the no move, i get it

 

But Robertson does not have that, this is the chance to add a 100 point player, you make this happen

Just now, ponokasabre said:

Marchment may not be getable with the no move, i get it

 

But Robertson does not have that, this is the chance to add a 100 point player, you make this happen

Take Dumba if you have to, to get this done, move Cliffton and Dumba can be the 7th dman this year

[JohnC]

The one player who would be most impactful  for us from Dallas would be Oettinger. I would offer #9 pick, UPL and Rosen. If they would require either Kulich or JJP instead of Rosen, I would be queasy and say yes.. 

[dudacek]

I think I’m less high on Robertson than some of you. Not because I don’t like him, just because I’m less familiar with the player than I should be and he hasn’t popped for me in my viewings.

That said, if he is actually getting traded, this is exactly the type of opportunity that we’ve kept our powder dry for.

Cant see many teams offering a main piece as attractive as Peterka. Cant see many with the depth Buffalo has in sweeteners.

Edited 4 hours ago by dudacek

[LGR4GM]

13 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The one player who would be most impactful  for us from Dallas would be Oettinger. I would offer #9 pick, UPL and Rosen. If they would require either Kulich or JJP instead of Rosen, I would be queasy and say yes.. 

They aren't trading Oettinger. 

[Mr. Allen]

6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

They aren't trading Oettinger. 

That offer Wouldn’t be enough.  But didn’t they just fire the coach because they chose oettinger over him? 

[JohnC]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

They aren't trading Oettinger. 

I know. Simply aspirational and indicating what our biggest need is. In my view, stabilizing the goalie position will have the biggest bang for the buck when it comes to making moves. 

[Taro T]

19 minutes ago, JohnC said:

The one player who would be most impactful  for us from Dallas would be Oettinger. I would offer #9 pick, UPL and Rosen. If they would require either Kulich or JJP instead of Rosen, I would be queasy and say yes.. 

They fired the REALLY good coach they had because he got into a public pissing contest with Oettinger.

Yes, on really rare occassions BOTH sides of a pissing match get sent packing (Nolan and Muckler being the example that immediately springs to mind).  But that is EXTREMELY rare.  Far more often, the guy that doesn't get punted ends up a key piece they build around.

Don't see any realistic way Oettinger gets traded anytime soon.

[Weave]

2 hours ago, inkman said:

God a competent GM could do this:

Robertson - $7.5 mill

Marchment - $4.5 mill

Dumba - $3.75 mill

Lyubushkin - $3.25 mill

Removes $19 mill for Dallas

9th overall 

Krebs $1.45 mill

Kulich  $.89 mill

Rosen $.89 mill

Clifton $3.3 mill

Stars only bring in less than $7 mill 

 

I know it’s not going to happen but something has to get me through the doldrums of summer.  I know I didn’t address the Sabres salary cap issues after the moves but I’d just do it and figure out the salary stuff later. 

Can I keep Kulich and add something else to make it happen?

No? I guess OK then.

[JohnC]

9 minutes ago, Taro T said:

They fired the REALLY good coach they had because he got into a public pissing contest with Oettinger.

Yes, on really rare occassions BOTH sides of a pissing match get sent packing (Nolan and Muckler being the example that immediately springs to mind).  But that is EXTREMELY rare.  Far more often, the guy that doesn't get punted ends up a key piece they build around.

Don't see any realistic way Oettinger gets traded anytime soon.

I'm aware that it is unlikely that Oettinger gets traded. But sometimes the dispatching of a coach goes beyond an "incident". When a coach has been with a team for an extended period sometimes the voice in the room gets stale and losses its potency. And it's not unusual that not only a coach has worn out his welcome but also the coach has tired dealing with the less receptive group. My point here is that I'm sure that there was more going on between the players and the coach that we are aware of. Especially in hockey, reshuffling the deck can be refresing to the group and to the departed coach. 

Edited 3 hours ago by JohnC

[PerreaultForever]

On 6/11/2025 at 8:12 AM, ponokasabre said:

Id take Robertson and Dumba if thats what it required

 

Im sure you could move Cliffton and have Dumba be that 6/7th defensman for us this year, they are very close to the same player, making the same money

 

But its gotta be Peterka in the trade not Tuch

I don't see why you'd have to move Clifton in this scenario if they are moving Byram as rumored. They are not cap crunched. Clifton would be overpaid, but we'd have depth.

[inkman]

1 minute ago, PerreaultForever said:

I don't see why you'd have to move Clifton in this scenario if they are moving Byram as rumored. They are not cap crunched. Clifton would be overpaid, but we'd have depth.

Dallas will need someone to play D?