Thorner Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Getpucksdeep said: Agree but as we know actual good players have nmc and so we can't get them. Not excusing ka and or tp for the bed they've made, but given the situation this guy sounds like potentially best player available. I think this deal more so proves the “can’t get good players” idea false. It proves the “you have to pay up for them” idea true The actual structure of the deal is actually quite promising 1) we traded someone liked 2) going with the idea it is indeed a “now” trade, it demonstrates a willingness to perhaps “lose” a trade from a perception standpoint, raw current production standpoint to WIN the war by addressing a need. I don’t know if I agree with the execution, namely, whether a left shot perhaps injury riddled player addresses said need, but, the method behind the madness is extremely encouraging 3) hockey trade I quite like the mechanics behind the deal. I might like the mechanics of the deal enough that even irrespective of my evaluation of the actual components, I’m glad we made it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 34 minutes ago, seer775 said: What? Do you know how biology works? Brain damage is much worse than no brain damage. Mitts has had no brain injuries. Byram has had three severe concussions. He's 22. Would you expect him to keep playing if he got another one? Try to keep up with your own logic here. You knocked the trade because we traded for a player who suffered three concussions early in his career, the last being over two years ago. But then you say you would be fine with having a player who has suffered more of them. Ergo, your stated concern about concussions is bullcrap because it’s more about talent than concern for the player. But yeah, once you suffer an initial concussion the next one is exponentially easier to sustain and with even less force required to sustain it. That said the treatments and protocols have improved over the last several years as well so their effects can be better mitigated. As to whether he should keep playing if he sustains another one, that depends on several factors. I’ll just say that after Kyle Okposo went into a manic state, suffered from paranoia, delusions, and had to be hospitalized after a concussion, I was all for his retirement. But that was six years ago now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Geez… Thompson’s shot puts a rebound right off to Tuch and he skates past it… Heads up, not in the clouds, Tuch Victor…. Boom… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 How come he hasn’t been playing, Granato? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Believer said: Geez… Thompson’s shot puts a rebound right off to Tuch and he skates past it… Heads up, not in the clouds, Tuch Victor…. Boom… Mittelstadt for Byram….boom Just now, Believer said: How come he hasn’t been playing, Granato? He’s not even in Buffalo yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: Mittelstadt for Byram….boom He’s not even in Buffalo yet! You got a little Tuch in you tonight, Thorny… You are distracted!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 (edited) 1 minute ago, Believer said: You got a little Tuch in you tonight, Thorny… You are distracted!! You’re the one in the wrong thread! 😃 Edited March 7 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Thorny said: You’re the one in the wrong thread! 😃 Geezus…,You’re right!… Two games in a row… Good God😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Krebs has made Mitts expendable? Out of our 12 main forwards, the guy who ranks 12th in points makes the guy ranked #1 expendable? Even if he did, doesn’t that make player #11 expendable sooner than the guy who’s now #2? Can’t wrap my head around this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, GoPuckYourself said: We just drafted 3 centers 2 seasons ago in Savoie, Kulich and Östlund. Someone is going to take over that spot and they obviously didn't want to pay Middlestadt to do it so yes I believe that's correct. Someone next year can take over the fourth line center. Krebs' game has improved this year, too, just not as dramatic as Mitts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 49 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I mean, there's what 4? Other Canadian wjc guys he knows here? He's definitely buddies with Cozens and Krebs. 1 hour ago, mjd1001 said: I'm all for this trade, but something to consider, Experience on defense seems to have gotten VERY important the last few years in the NHL: Top 5 teams in the league this year right now, age of their top 4 D-mean they rely on: -Florida (29, 27, 28, 32).....ave: 29, youngest 27 -Vancouver (24, 26, 34, 35)...ave 29.75, youngest 24 -Boston (26, 30, 27, 30)....ave 28.25, youngest 26 -Winnipeg (28, 30, 28, 33)....ave 29.75, youngest 28 -NY Rangers (26, 24, 30, 28)...ave 27, youngest 24 And Vegas as the cup winner last year (34, 28, 33, 36)....ave 32.75, youngest 28 Now for Buffalo...with Byram, Dahlin, Power, and Samuelsson: (23, 21, 23, 22)....ave 22.25. OLDEST 23 Buffalo's OLDEST D-man is younger than the youngest on the top 5 teams this year, and of course the AVERAGE age of Buffalo's new top 5 is less than the single youngest guy on any of the teams above. This D-group has the potential to be Elite, one of the best the NHL has seen in years...BUT if that does happen, its likely to need a few YEARS to get to that point. So what you're saying is 4 years from now, our defense will be really good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, seer775 said: Try again genius. Mitts = 0 concussions. Byram = 3+. Forget about Sidney Crosby since your decision to mention him was asinine to begin with. You’re dismissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Now we just need to trade Power for whatever our version of Tkachuk would be, put Lindy behind the bench, find a decent vet goalie to pair with UPL and we'd be all set. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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triumph_communes Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 (edited) As much as I liked watching Casey, he also had a knack for not finishing. Wish him the best. If this guy stops Dahlin playing 30 minutes a night it’s a good move. Let’s hope it’s not another Clifton bust I still think our issues is mainly coaching Edited March 7 by triumph_communes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Byram will surprise... it's not a stretch to suggest he might just be the best skater on the team. Fits Granato's fire wagon system to a T. Gonna be interesting to see if he gets any PP time, maybe take some minutes away from Poser. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Winner take all 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: As much as I liked watching Casey, he also had a knack for not finishing. Wish him the best. If this guy stops Dahlin playing 30 minutes a night it’s a good move. Let’s hope it’s not another Clifton bust I still think our issues is mainly coaching Clifton is a bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 10 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: As much as I liked watching Casey, he also had a knack for not finishing. Wish him the best. If this guy stops Dahlin playing 30 minutes a night it’s a good move. Let’s hope it’s not another Clifton bust I still think our issues is mainly coaching Coaching and roster construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 I do believe this is the first in series of moves. Could Jokiharju be on the move by Friday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Brawndo said: I do believe this is the first in series of moves. Could Jokiharju be on the move by Friday? As a right shot, he’s sticking out like a sore thumb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: As a right shot, he’s sticking out like a sore thumb And his name ends with the letter "u". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: As a right shot, he’s sticking out like a sore thumb Who knows? The goal might be to dress 8 left shot defensemen every night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 38 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I do believe this is the first in series of moves. Could Jokiharju be on the move by Friday? 37 minutes ago, Thorny said: As a right shot, he’s sticking out like a sore thumb Like most GMs, I think KA is more inclined to trade guys he inherited (like Mitts) than guys he chose -- but would they really reduce their limited supply of RHD? It's an interesting question. Now if they wanted to trade a RHD -- Power, Savoie and a #1 for Tkachuk? In any case I would love another big move, although I fear it won't matter until a new coach is brought in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 5 players from the Canadian 2020 U20 team. Didn’t they lose to the US? Cozens, Krebs, Quinn, Byram and Levi. Maybe they’ll have better luck in the NHL. Ryan Johnson was on the US squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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