Thorny Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Marek did say the classic Sabres logo was among the best all time in all of sports and he’s definitely right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Columbus is looking to move Merzlikins. Elvis-UPL and let Levi develop in Rochester. It’s an option 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMCSnyper Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 12 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Columbus is looking to move Merzlikins. Elvis-UPL and let Levi develop in Rochester. It’s an option Markstrom too, per Weekes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 22 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Columbus is looking to move Merzlikins. Elvis-UPL and let Levi develop in Rochester. It’s an option It's an unlikely option. UPL and Levi are our goalies. If Levi were to be sent down to Rochester, Comrie would move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Offer them Comrie and VO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 26 minutes ago, JohnC said: It's an unlikely option. UPL and Levi are our goalies. If Levi were to be sent down to Rochester, Comrie would move up. You make a good point I hadn’t considered.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 UPL and Levi have the goalie of record in 36 games, and have totaled 38 points. Those 2 combined are playing at nearly an 87 point pace. Not playoff pace, not as good as last year...but it looks a bit better when you take out Comrie's 1 win and 5 losses. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Thorny said: You make a good point I hadn’t considered.. It's a point that you haven't been willing to accept. It's unlikely that KA is going to make a deal this year for another goalie for this team. If you think otherwise, you are betting on a humongous long-shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TageMVP Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 He should have traded for a goalie last year. Still should this year How long can he bank all of these prospects and picks though, seriously. Makes some trades already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erickompositör72 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 My take: If we had this tandem (Levi - UPL) last year, we would have made the playoffs Goaltending hasn't been great, but I don't think it's the source of our woes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) 42 minutes ago, JohnC said: It's a point that you haven't been willing to accept. It's unlikely that KA is going to make a deal this year for another goalie for this team. If you think otherwise, you are betting on a humongous long-shot. You made the point that UPL and Levi are in fact the current goalies. That’s not a point. That’s an observation lol The only way someone could not have been willing to accept that is if they literally were unaware of who was playing Edited January 12 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Thorny said: You made the point that UPL and Levi are in fact the goalies. That’s not a point. That’s an observation lol The only way someone could not have been willing to accept that is if they literally were unaware of who was playing You can play semantical gymnastics all you want. UPL and Levi are in fact the goalies, and that is the point. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, JohnC said: It's a point that you haven't been willing to accept. It's unlikely that KA is going to make a deal this year for another goalie for this team. If you think otherwise, you are betting on a humongous long-shot. Even if my intent was to argue that Adams should upgrade (it wasn’t), the conversation is essentially: “Hey, why don’t we see Scorsese’s new movie? Looks way better than Bay’s.” and then your response is, ”We can’t see Scorsese’s movie, because Transformers is the movie we are seeing today”. ”but why don’t we go see The Departed?” ”We can’t, we’re seeing Transformers.” - - - “We won’t be upgrading the goalies because UPL and Levi are the goalies.” You aren’t actually saying anything - not sure if you understand that that’s the aspect I was jesting at. - - - As for the bolded segment - it’s also unfortunately a poor representation of my stance: anyone who reads my posts can see my argument regarding KA and the goaltending is that it defies logic to suggest he couldn’t have upgraded the position within the time frame of 4 seasons: the exact argument I bust out whenever the inevitable “who even was there?!1” comes up. Indeed, I understand an in-season move is very unlikely and have constantly said as much 24 minutes ago, JohnC said: You can play semantical gymnastics all you want. UPL and Levi are in fact the goalies, and that is the point. . Bizarro world Also, rough day for people correctly understanding the meaning of “semantics” Edited January 12 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 UPL has started 3 games in a row. He is looking more and more like the No. 1 goalie for this season. Marty is even being nice about his game. Time to send Levi down to get game reps? Comrie has played well in his two starts in Rochester. Might as well let him backup UPL. You can still bring up Levi for periodic starts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: UPL has started 3 games in a row. He is looking more and more like the No. 1 goalie for this season. Marty is even being nice about his game. Time to send Levi down to get game reps? Comrie has played well in his two starts in Rochester. Might as well let him backup UPL. You can still bring up Levi for periodic starts. Comrie is terrible though. Unless we are giving up on the season, I’d keep the two best goalies The putrid approach to GT by Adams already has a hand in our likely 4th straight playoff miss (under his term), I’d rather it not cost us even more points if it’s finally coming together. Better late than never Edited January 15 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 23 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: UPL has started 3 games in a row. He is looking more and more like the No. 1 goalie for this season. Marty is even being nice about his game. Time to send Levi down to get game reps? Comrie has played well in his two starts in Rochester. Might as well let him backup UPL. You can still bring up Levi for periodic starts. No. Even if Levi is surpassed by UPL for the 1A job, I would rather keep Levi on the roster as the backup than Comrie. The issue is simple: Who is the better goalie right now, Levi or Comrie? Levi is. Stay the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Thorny said: Comrie is terrible though. Unless we are giving up on the season, I’d keep the two best goalies The putrid approach to GT by Adams already has a hand in our likely 4th straight playoff miss (under his term), I’d rather it not cost us even more points if it’s finally coming together. Better late than never This season is done. Ride UPL. Let him play 3 of 4. The key is what is best for Levi’s development. I’d say that’s being the No. 1 in Rochester and then playing in the AHL playoffs. The side benefit is you can showcase Comrie and if he plays well then maybe you can get something for him at the deadline. Edited January 15 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said: This season is done. Showcase Comrie and if he plays well then maybe you can get something for him at the deadline. The key is what is best for Levi’s development. I’d say that’s being the No. 1 in Rochester and then playing in the AHL playoffs. I hear you, I just happen to think that that a big key to the development of the team, overall, is the prioritization of winning in the now term. I’d hate to back down from that as Focus and think it sends entirely the wrong message You may disenfranchise the somewhat older players in the name of prioritizing development yet again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 34 minutes ago, JohnC said: No. Even if Levi is surpassed by UPL for the 1A job, I would rather keep Levi on the roster as the backup than Comrie. The issue is simple: Who is the better goalie right now, Levi or Comrie? Levi is. Stay the course. The issue is what is best for the Sabres long-term since this season is done. Make UPL the starter to see what you have. Make Levi the starter in Rochester to maximize his reps and try to showcase Comrie some to see if someone will trade for him at the deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: The issue is what is best for the Sabres long-term since this season is done. Make UPL the starter to see what you have. Make Levi the starter in Rochester to maximize his reps and try to showcase Comrie some to see if someone will trade for him at the deadline. I still think what’s best for the Sabres long term is to spend every ounce of energy necessary in breaking the “losses are ok” mindset Play your best contributors this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said: The issue is what is best for the Sabres long-term since this season is done. Make UPL the starter to see what you have. Make Levi the starter in Rochester to maximize his reps and try to showcase Comrie some to see if someone will trade for him at the deadline. I respectfully but strenuously disagree. This season isn't lost from a playoff standpoint. Granted, odds are challenging to make the playoffs. But they also existed last year until we finished with a flourish. For me, the issue is simple: Which player is better and will help you more in a playoff run. For me, easily it is Levi over Comrie. I think you are making a mistake in throwing in the towel so soon. There's still time although the margin of error is small. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: I still think what’s best for the Sabres long term is to spend every ounce of energy necessary in breaking the “losses are ok” mindset Play your best contributors this year. According to today’s broadcast the team has confidence in UPL. If that is the case, then make him the starter and play him 3 of 4 to try to do the best you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 23 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: According to today’s broadcast the team has confidence in UPL. If that is the case, then make him the starter and play him 3 of 4 to try to do the best you can. Maybe UPL plays better when he knows the other guy can actually put on pads facing the correct direction I dunno. Whenever Comrie is here we suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 (edited) I get you are saying “yes” (we do suck with Comrie) and “it’s better to help Levi out and send him down, though” and I see the argument if UPL truly is going to play 3/4 (which never seems to actually transpire so I’m not sold yet), but it would still feel icky to actively send down the better goalie the fact it might be the correct option is just a sad commentary on how the goaltending situation was configured for this season Edited January 15 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 (edited) 29 minutes ago, JohnC said: I respectfully but strenuously disagree. This season isn't lost from a playoff standpoint. Granted, odds are challenging to make the playoffs. But they also existed last year until we finished with a flourish. For me, the issue is simple: Which player is better and will help you more in a playoff run. For me, easily it is Levi over Comrie. I think you are making a mistake in throwing in the towel so soon. There's still time although the margin of error is small. The Sabres need 54 points in their remaining 38 games to chance. That’s 25-9-4. There is no way on G-d’s green Earth that this team performs even close to that level. They haven’t even had a 3 game win streak. I’m glad you hold out hope, but it’s just not realistic. My solutions gives max reps to both Levi and UPL, who are presumably the goalies for next season, while enhancing both the Amerks and Sabres chances to win this season. Edited January 15 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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