The Sabres and the Goalie market

[GASabresIUFAN]

NHL contracts - Levi, UPL and Comrie

Depth signings - Tokarski and Cooley

Who is still available? UFAs - Jarry. Trade - Hellebuyck, Hart?, Saros? Thompson?

Are the Sabres going with the 3 headed hydra in goal?

Edited July 6, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN

[B-U-F-F-A-L-O]

Looks like it…

[GASabresIUFAN]

Who else really needs a goalie at this point?  Pittsburgh? 

[B-U-F-F-A-L-O]

I think the Sabres figure the goalies are going to look a lot better with a proper and deep defense in front of them….

I tend to agree…

[LabattBlue]

2 minutes ago, B-U-F-F-A-L-O said:

I think the Sabres figure the goalies are going to look a lot better with a proper and deep defense in front of them….

I tend to agree…

A better goalie will take care of the problem even more. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 minute ago, B-U-F-F-A-L-O said:

I think the Sabres figure the goalies are going to look a lot better with a proper and deep defense in front of them….

I tend to agree…

I think Comrie and UPL aren’t close to good enough for a playoff team.  KA needs to find a better solution, but not many solutions left to acquire.

[Thorny]

5 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

A better goalie will take care of the problem even more. 

Thank you.

Goalie is the only position people continually talk about improving by improving other positions. No one talks about the other positions this way. It’s actually ok to roster a good player or 2. You don’t merely need to be content with bumping up poor goaltending into mediocre through additions elsewhere. You actually can look to supply good goaltending outright 

4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I think Comrie and UPL aren’t close to good enough for a playoff team.  KA needs to find a better solution, but not many solutions left to acquire.

A broken record. The time frame is 4 seasons, there’s simply no room for excuses anymore 

Edited July 1, 2023 by Thorny

[GASabresIUFAN]

43 minutes ago, Thorny said:

A broken record. The time frame is 4 seasons, there’s simply no room for excuses anymore 

So you agree we need a better goalie now?

[Marvin]

IMHO, it's hydra time because I do not see anyone out there either in FA or anyone that they could trade for who is readily available for only a few years.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Jarry re-signs in Pitt.  Varlamov is the best available UFA.  Hellebuyck still best available but not enough term for KA.  

 

 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Rumor has it that Pitt also trying to sign Nedjelkovic.  Maybe they’ll trade us DeSmith to save some cap space.

[Marvin]

22 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Jarry re-signs in Pitt.  Varlamov is the best available UFA.  Hellebuyck still best available but not enough term for KA.  

 

 

Just wondering: who is left for Hellebuyck?  Has he priced himself out of a trade from Winnipeg?

[GASabresIUFAN]

He wants a longterm big $ deal.  At this point I don’t see anyone making a move for him unless it’s a crap team like Chicago.  I don’t see us trading for him unless Wpg gives us him for nothing as a 1 yr rental.

Sorokin just re-signed for 8 years at 8.25.  That is also going to put a limit on Hellebuyck contract and I doubt anyone going 8 years for a 29 year old goalie.

Edited July 1, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN

[GASabresIUFAN]

Varlamov has officially re-signed.  There are no longer any goalies on the FA market worth signing unless KA is willing to make an offer sheet for Swayman.  That’s not happening.  

While I’m perfectly happy with the 2 D signings.  Not getting a goalie is a huge mistake.  While a trade is still possible, I don’t see KA as willing to part with any key assets to get it done.  The better D will help bring down the goals against some, but will it save us the 30 - 40 goals needed for us to be a legit playoff team.  This mistake will be magnified if Levi isn’t ready or gets hurt.

 

 

Edited July 2, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN

[Dr. Who]

17 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Varlamov has officially re-signed.  There are no longer any goalies on the FA market worth signing unless KA is willing to make an offer sheet for Swayman.  That’s not happening.  

While I’m perfectly happy with the 2 D signings.  Not getting a goalie is a huge mistake.  While a trade is still possible, I don’t see KA as willing to part with any key assets to get it done.  The better D will help bring down the goals against some, but will it save us the 30 - 40 goals needed for us to be a legit playoff team.  This mistake will be magnified if Levi isn’t read or gets hurt.

 

 

I haven't entirely given up on a trade for Hellebuyck. The price would have to be something KA is comfortable with for a one-year rental.

[Flashsabre]

30 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Varlamov has officially re-signed.  There are no longer any goalies on the FA market worth signing unless KA is willing to make an offer sheet for Swayman.  That’s not happening.  

While I’m perfectly happy with the 2 D signings.  Not getting a goalie is a huge mistake.  While a trade is still possible, I don’t see KA as willing to part with any key assets to get it done.  The better D will help bring down the goals against some, but will it save us the 30 - 40 goals needed for us to be a legit playoff team.  This mistake will be magnified if Levi isn’t read or gets hurt.

 

 

So Adams has a press conference where he said they are not getting a goalie?

[GASabresIUFAN]

15 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

So Adams has a press conference where he said they are not getting a goalie?

No, but in his pressers he repeatedly mention D upgrades and in recent weeks he hasn’t addressed adding a goalie.  I’m not saying he won’t make a trade, but the odds have decreased significantly of getting adequate goaltending help.

[LabattBlue]

I can hear it now…”we tried…”

 

Guess what….trying is great for 5-6 year olds playing t-ball, not for NHL GM’s.  

Edited July 1, 2023 by LabattBlue

[LGR4GM]

Levi is going to make the goalie issue moot

[Thorny]

18 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Levi is going to make the goalie issue moot

This just isn’t accurate. The President’s Trophy winners iced the vezina winning goalie and *still* heavily relied on Swayman. 

Rookie Devon Levi doesn’t make the second goalie issue for the Buffalo Sabres moot. Not even close 

Edited July 1, 2023 by Thorny

[Doohickie]

4 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I think Comrie and UPL aren’t close to good enough for a playoff team.  KA needs to find a better solution, but not many solutions left to acquire.

I think even with Cerberus in goal, the Sabres will make the playoffs.  If they are in good position in the standings, maybe Kevyn does a deadline deal to get playoff experience in goal.

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Levi is going to make the goalie issue moot

This is possibly true, but the question would still be when?

[Gatorman0519]

I could be wrong, but I don't think its a good idea to give Levi the reins yet.  He is too young.  A vet goalie should of been a priority. 

[HumanSlinky39]

There's no reason to hit the doomsday button yet. The FA market was always going to be a feeding frenzy. If you thought KA was going to get into a bidding war for the few established goalies on the market, you haven't been paying attention. The season is still over 100 days away. Once the dust settles on FA, there is plenty of time, and we have plenty of desirable ammo for a trade. If we're approaching camp with no new bodies, then complain...I'll probably join ya.

[Flashsabre]

17 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said:

I could be wrong, but I don't think its a good idea to give Levi the reins yet.  He is too young.  A vet goalie should of been a priority. 

My problem is if Levi gets injured. Almost all the UFA goalies signed back with their teams. Carolina brought both Andersen and Raanta back.

Still don’t know what the Leafs are doing. Murray is still there, they haven’t signed Samsonov and Woll should be the backup at $800,000

Edited July 2, 2023 by Flashsabre