sweetlou Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Although the last 10 years have been futile, who would be in your all 2000's Sabres team! Forwards- Vanek, Eichel, Pomminstein Satan, Briere, Reinhart Hecht, Drury, Tuch Foligno, Gaustad, Gionta Defense- Dahlin, Numminen McKee, Risto Spacek, Rivet Goalies- Miller, Biron, Hasek extras- forwards- O'Reilly, Afinogenov, Connolly defense- Tallinder, Campbell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Ristolainen wouldn't be anywhere near my team. Tallinder would though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Ristolainen wouldn't be anywhere near my team. Tallinder would though. Pair Risto with a solid defenseman and I still would have him only team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) Top defense of the 2000's would be dominated by the first decade Pre Pegula first tier: Zhitnik, Shmelik, McKee, Campbell, Talinder, Teppo, Lydman, Wooley, Warrener Pre Pegula Second Tier: Patrick, Kalinin, Weber, Sekara, Spacek, Myers, Rivet The only Pegula era defensemen worthy of discussion are Dhalin, McCabe, and Risto. Of that crew only Dahlin makes the overall 2000 team. Overall: Zhitnik, McKee, Dahlin, Teppo, Talinder, Campbell, Edited March 8, 2022 by Pimlach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 19 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Ristolainen wouldn't be anywhere near my team. Tallinder would though. I agree with that on Risto. He had/has the talent, he worked hard, he spent a lot of time here, but despite the effort and the physical talent, he just wasn't that good. For me, you don't get an honor just for 'trying hard' and 'having physical tools'...if the technique/hockey IQ is missing in a big way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 If we are talking since 2000, On D, take of Risto, maybe replace him with Lydman and I'd even hear arguments for Warrener or Sekera over Risto. Up front I didn't 'like' Roy as a player, but he did produce, so him and Stafford (based on production) I think you need to consider. Connolly may have been near the top of the list as far as talent. We only saw it for about a half season and 1 playoff series leading up to his concussion, but at that point, no matter how short of a time that may have been, he may have been the single best player in terms of talent and production we have seen in the last 20 years (even over Eichel). Too bad that just when he got to that point, he had that serious injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) I'm not sure Biron gets on there with a straight face. I love the guy, but he never made it past being a backup (and marginal starter in Philly). I'm not sure who does belong though since the post-Miller era is a lot of mediocre. Maybe Holtby Neuvirth (he played here, right?), Ullmark, or Enroth. Edited March 8, 2022 by MattPie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 I tried to keep certain players together (Vanek and Pommer; HBD, Hank-Lydman, McKee-Warrener). On D, Campbell should get some ice time, but he's a bit redundant and I'm happy with the left side. Vanek - O’Reilly - Pominville Satan - Eichel - Reinhart Hecht - Briere - Dumont Drury - Peca - Tuch Extras: Foligno, Connolly, Afinogenov depending on the style of the opponent Tallinder – Lydman Dahlin – Numminen Spacek – Ehrhoff Extras: Campbell, McKee – Warrener Hasek Miller Extras: Neuvirth, Ullmark (for shootouts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Are we going 2000-2009 or 2000 to today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Are we going 2000-2009 or 2000 to today? Looking at peoples lists … the answer is … yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: I tried to keep certain players together (Vanek and Pommer; HBD, Hank-Lydman, McKee-Warrener). On D, Campbell should get some ice time, but he's a bit redundant and I'm happy with the left side. Vanek - O’Reilly - Pominville Satan - Eichel - Reinhart Hecht - Briere - Dumont Drury - Peca - Tuch Extras: Foligno, Connolly, Afinogenov depending on the style of the opponent Tallinder – Lydman Dahlin – Numminen Spacek – Ehrhoff Extras: Campbell, McKee – Warrener Hasek Miller Extras: Neuvirth, Ullmark (for shootouts) Good job overall but - no way Spacek and Errhof beat out Campbell, McKee or Warrener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porous Five Hole Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Pimlach said: Good job overall but - no way Spacek and Errhof beat out Campbell, McKee or Warrener. I’ll take Jaro over Rhett. Spacek had more points in one season (45) than Rhett had in all three of his qualifying seasons (00-01, 01-02, 02-03). However, both were plus players each of their three qualifying seasons and Rhett played a heavier game. I suppose it just depends on roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Pimlach said: Good job overall but - no way Spacek and Errhof beat out Campbell, McKee or Warrener. I kept a self-imposed rule of L-R pairings. That 3rd pairing was my great dilemma. I didn't want to split McKee-Warrener. So I have them as an alternate pairing. In the playoffs, I think I play McKee-Warrener as the 3rd pair when shot blocking and physicality (and lack of penalties being called) come into play. But in the regular season, Spacek brings a shot and offense that Mckee just never had. Ehrhoff was a possession beast, even on absolute garbage teams he had positive Corsi, and even then in 2013-14 when they traded Miller his relative Corsi was amazing. So for a 3rd pairing, it made sense to possess the puck and make the smart pass to the forwards. Ehrhoff can also run the 2nd PP. Campbell gets squeezed out because of the forwards and my unwillingness to break up Tallinder-Lydman whose all around game is unsurpassed on a 2000s team. Campbell (and Zhitnik) rushing the puck up ice both became nice-to-have with all that balance up front. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Zamboni said: Looking at peoples lists … the answer is … yes That's what worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: That's what worries me. Meh. Don’t let anything on this board worry you. It’s a silly thread about a silly topic to waste time. Like 90% of the threads 😂 I wonder what the best Sabres team that can be created if you only used guys born in odd numbered months. Or odd numbered years. Or their last names begin with vowels only. The useless threads are endless! 😂 Edited March 9, 2022 by Zamboni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, Zamboni said: Meh. Don’t let anything on this board worry you. It’s a silly thread about a silly topic to waste time. Like 90% of the threads 😂 I wonder what the best Sabres team that can be created if you only used guys born in odd numbered months. Or odd numbered years. Or their last names begin with vowels only. The unless threads are endless! 😂 Best USA born team, Best International born team and the best Canadian born team. Maybe even the best team comprised of players from each country that have ever played for the Sabres. That last one should be a real interesting challenge with 12 forwards, 6 D and 2 goalies. Have we had players from 20 countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Best USA born team, Best International born team and the best Canadian born team. Maybe even the best team comprised of players from each country that have ever played for the Sabres. That last one should be a real interesting challenge with 12 forwards, 6 D and 2 goalies. Have we had players from 20 countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) On 3/8/2022 at 11:48 PM, Zamboni said: We have actually had players born in 16 different countries. We have an incredible lack of successful Swedish and Finnish forwards for some reason. I repeated USA, Canada, Sweden and Czech to complete the 18 player team. Some of our best players were left off to accommodate D from smaller countries. Interestingly we have had no players from Norway, Denmark or Switzerland. Vanek (AUS) Perreault (CAN) Mogilny (RUS) Satan (SVK) LaFontaine (USA) Hecht (GER) Girgensons (LAT) Ruuttu (FIN) Kotalik (CZE) Perry (ENG) Zubrus (LTU) Olofsson (SWE) Zhitnik (UKR) Hajt (CAN) Dahlin (SWE) Regehr (BRA) Antipin (KAZ) Ndur (NGR) Hasek (CZE) Miller (USA) Edited March 10, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: We have actually had players born in 16 different countries. We have an incredible lack of successful Swedish and Finnish forwards for some reason. I repeated USA, Canada, Sweden and Czech to complete the 18 player team. Some of our best players were left off to accommodate D from smaller countries. Interestingly we have had no players from Norway, Denmark or Switzerland. Vanek (AUS) Perreault (CAN) Mogilny (RUS) Satan (SVK) Eichel (USA) Hecht (GER) Girgensons (LAT) Ruuttu (FIN) Kotalik (CZE) Perry (ENG) Zubrus (LTU) Asplund (SWE) Zhitnik (UKR) Hajt (CAN) Dahlin (SWE) Regehr (BRA) Antipin (KAZ) Ndur (NGR) Hasek (CZE) Miller (USA) You are way more interested and dedicated to this than I am 😂 I salute your time and interest. Nice list. By the way, our current goalies are all Swiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Zamboni said: You are way more interested and dedicated to this than I am 😂 I salute your time and interest. Nice list. By the way, our current goalies are all Swiss Certainly not like Hasek and Miller. Speaking of Miller. Here is team USA - The Sabres have had players born in 21 states believe it or not. I tried to create the best team balanced with good players from the most states Thompson (AZ) LaFontaine (MO) Drury (CT) Plante (MN) Eichel (MA) Stafford (WI) Wood (NJ) Connolly (NY) Holzinger (OH) Foligno (NY) Gaustad (ND) Grier (MI) Housley (MN) Ramsey (MN) Myers (TX) McCabe (WI) Weber (PA) Fogolin (IL) Miller (MI) Barasso (MN) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Team Canada using at least one player from all 10 provinces (except NB) and 2 territories. Martin (PQ) Perreault (PQ) Robert (PQ) Andreychuk (ONT) Luce (ONT) Ramsay (ONT) Sanderson (NWT) OTT (PEI) Gare (BC) Boulton (NS) Cozens (YUK) Pominville (PQ) Hajt (SASK) Bodger (BC) Ruff (ALTA) Schoenfeld (ONT) Patrick (MAN) Pardy (NFLD) Edwards (ONT) Biron (PQ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 @GASabresIUFAN really needs a hot date with his hot wife. No kids hanging around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 9:08 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: We have actually had players born in 16 different countries. We have an incredible lack of successful Swedish and Finnish forwards for some reason. I repeated USA, Canada, Sweden and Czech to complete the 18 player team. Some of our best players were left off to accommodate D from smaller countries. Interestingly we have had no players from Norway, Denmark or Switzerland. Vanek (AUS) Perreault (CAN) Mogilny (RUS) Satan (SVK) LaFontaine (USA) Hecht (GER) Girgensons (LAT) Ruuttu (FIN) Kotalik (CZE) Perry (ENG) Zubrus (LTU) Asplund (SWE) Zhitnik (UKR) Hajt (CAN) Dahlin (SWE) Regehr (BRA) Antipin (KAZ) Ndur (NGR) Hasek (CZE) Miller (USA) Had to look that one up. Dont often stumble into a Sabre I’ve never heard of. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=4253 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 10, 2022 Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, dudacek said: Had to look that one up. Dont often stumble into a Sabre I’ve never heard of. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=4253 I've mentioned him before in the 1 game Sabres thread. Here is a stab at the all Europe team Vanek (AUS) Ruuttu (FIN) Mogilny (RUS) Satan (SLV) Hecht (GER) Afinogenov (RUS) Olofsson (SWE) Girgensons (LAT) Kotalik (CZE) Varada (CZE) Larsson (SWE) Grosek (CZE) Zhitnik (UKR) Tallinder (SWE) Smehlik (CZE) Dahlin (SWE) Krupp (GER) Ristolainen (FIN) Hasek (CZE) Lehner (SWE) 5- Czechs, 5 Swedes, 2 Finns, 2 Russians, 2 Germans, and 1 each from Austria, Slovakia, Ukraine, and Latvia. Hardest choice - Deciding between Risto, Lydman, Kalinin, Sekera and Krupp for the last 2 D spots. Choose Risto because he is 3rd in games played by an International D and the leader in points. Choose Krupp for more balance among the nations. Almost added Hannu Virta. I was surprised by his output in his limited time here. Virta: 245 gp. 25g 101a 126 pts (.51 pts/gp) compare Dahlin: 253 gp 26g 118a 144 pts (.57 pts/gp) That's surprising similar production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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