Brawndo Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 It does open up 10.33 Million in Cap Space for the Wild 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Jack getting traded to the 2012 Sabres of the Western conference would be awful though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, WildCard said: Â Those buyouts are absurd. Left is Parise, right is Suter. Forgot they got the same contract (I believe) so yeah their buyouts are the same. In 2022, 23, 24 they will be spending $13-15M of the cap on those two buyouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 I'd be interested in Suter but I doubt he'd come here. He still has a couple years left in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Curt said: In 2022, 23, 24 they will be spending $13-15M of the cap on those two buyouts. Exactly. How does getting Jack help your team when you have to empty the bank to get him, and you'll be cap hamstrung for the next 3 years in his prime? Just doesn't make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Curt said: In 2022, 23, 24 they will be spending $13-15M of the cap on those two buyouts. How does this help them with the cap? What were Parise and Suter's hit b4 the buyout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: How does this help them with the cap? What were Parise and Suter's hit b4 the buyout? $7,538,462/year for the next 4 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, darksabre said: Jack getting traded to the 2012 Sabres of the Western conference would be awful though. Probably more like the 09 Sabres. Better obviously, but a good underlying team missing a top C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: How does this help them with the cap? What were Parise and Suter's hit b4 the buyout? Cap hit was $7.5 each. So in 2021-22 they are saving a lot.  The following 3 years they aren’t saving anything. Edited July 13, 2021 by Curt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, WildCard said: Exactly. How does getting Jack help your team when you have to empty the bank to get him, and you'll be cap hamstrung for the next 3 years in his prime? Just doesn't make sense to me. Realistically speaking Bill Guerin won’t be the GM of the Wild in a Few Years and how much pressure is coming from Kaprizov’s Camp to acquire a Bonafide 1C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: Probably more like the 09 Sabres. Better obviously, but a good underlying team missing a top C Are they that good? I feel like they're pretty mediocre. I can't imagine Jack puts them any closer to contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, darksabre said: Are they that good? I feel like they're pretty mediocre. I can't imagine Jack puts them any closer to contention. Well, they've made the playoffs 7 times over the last 10 seasons. They always seem to be in and around it but not a threat to actually go deep. I think Jack could definitely be that piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, darksabre said: Jack getting traded to the 2012 Sabres of the Western conference would be awful though. Awful for Jack.  Awfully fun for me. Edited July 13, 2021 by Weave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Weave said: Awful for Jack.  Awfully fun for me. 7 > 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Thorny said: 7 > 0 I’m lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Weave said: I’m lost. Wild have made the playoffs 7 more times than Buffalo over the last decade. I'm not so sure that's awful for Jack at all, and Minnesota is a big big hockey town obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Realistically speaking Bill Guerin won’t be the GM of the Wild in a Few Years and how much pressure is coming from Kaprizov’s Camp to acquire a Bonafide 1C? I'm sure there's pressure, but that's an awful solution. Better off going for Wright or just waiting for Rossi. 5 minutes ago, Thorny said: 7 > 0  3 minutes ago, Weave said: I’m lost. The Wild have made the playoffs 7/10 seasons, we haven't. Edited July 13, 2021 by WildCard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Thorny said: Wild have made the playoffs 7 more times than Buffalo over the last decade. I'm not so sure that's awful for Jack at all, and Minnesota is a big big hockey town obviously. And by town, I obviously mean State lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwchze Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 I’ve always speculated minn as a landing spot for jack or Sam.. hmm dudacek let’s revisit and see what you come up with. Rossi is a must return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 If he goes to Minnesota I'll drive down and watch him ...and i'll throw my Eichel 15 on the ice   one of those is true lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: Wild have made the playoffs 7 more times than Buffalo over the last decade. I'm not so sure that's awful for Jack at all, and Minnesota is a big big hockey town obviously. Let me have my Buffalo west moment! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 Minnesota Miracle Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 13, 2021 Report Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 hours ago, WildCard said: I'm sure there's pressure, but that's an awful solution. Better off going for Wright or just waiting for Rossi.  The Wild have made the playoffs 7/10 seasons, we haven't. Guerin because of pressure placed on Him by Kaprizov might not be able to wait for Rossi, who is probably a minimum of year or two away from being a 1C or having less than a 17%  of getting Wright if they finish 32nd.  Another advantage the Sabres might have is both Karmanos and Ventura have worked closely with Guerin and would know His Strengths or more importantly His Weaknesses.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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