Weave Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 The narrative would maybe be a la David Byrne/Talking Heads "Once in a Lifetime": Same as it ever was. (/arm chopping) Thing is: Maybe it isn't. I'm betting it isn't. In fact, I'm happier believing it isn't. In matters sport, I'd rather be happy than right. Not sure anyone has mentioned that narrative, so I guess it is yours. And I dont want to be right. I'd be perfectly happy to have Roy for Ott be the last time I'm right.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 I really had no desire for a bunch of folks to bring it up in 4 threads after I voiced it. Well, when you speak cryptically as if everyone is in on the secret, and no one is, people will ask questions. Not sure anyone has mentioned that narrative, so I guess it is yours. No, it's yours. You're saying that some things that happened with the rotten core seem to be happening again, therefore this core is also rotten. A similar construct might be, "My older son drove the car and got into an accident, therefore if my younger son drives the car, he too will get into an accident." BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Well, when you speak cryptically as if everyone is in on the secret, and no one is, people will ask questions. No, it's yours. You're saying that some things that happened with the rotten core seem to be happening again, therefore this core is also rotten. A similar construct might be, "My older son drove the car and got into an accident, therefore if my younger son drives the car, he too will get into an accident." BS. No. I didn't say that at all. I'm sorry. I didin't mean to interrupt your happy fun time. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Not sure anyone has mentioned that narrative, so I guess it is yours.. Wut. Maybe I am misunderstanding what's being said. Were you and d4rk talking about how members of the current core were ominously starting to sound like, resemble the departed rotten core? You were, weren't you? That's the narrative to which I was referring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) No. I didn't say that at all. I'm sorry. I didin't mean to interrupt your happy fun time. Carry on. Come on. That what do you mean by this? Memories of Miller calling out the core as fragile. Oh wait, our captain did that post game 2 games ago too. ******************************************************** Wut. Maybe I am misunderstanding what's being said. Were you and d4rk talking about how members of the current core were ominously starting to sound like, resemble the departed rotten core? You were, weren't you? That's the narrative to which I was referring. Yes, that's exactly what they're talking about. But they're trying to be all esoteric, omniscient and mysterious, like a couple of Old Testament prophets. Edited March 4, 2017 by Doohickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Jesus, what happened to this place... PTSD man!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 No, you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Not a tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Big whoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 They're mentally soft and crumble the moment there's adversity. Not winners. Lacking "it." Actually, this isn't nearly as dire as what I thought you and We've were hinting at. I thought you were referring more specifically to Jackie boy. Frankly, after pooping the bed vs Colorado and Arizona, it's hard to argue with your actual theory quoted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 I think they're a shallow team with some talent deficiencies, incredibly young core pieces, and a horrendously outdated system and that this accounts for the perceived lack of "it". A team with these situations is not going to win hockey games and I don't feel a need to go into the mystical realm of "it-ness" to explain it. JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 I think they're a shallow team with some talent deficiencies, incredibly young core pieces, and a horrendously outdated system and that this accounts for the perceived lack of "it". A team with these situations is not going to win hockey games and I don't feel a need to go into the mystical realm of "it-ness" to explain it. JMO.Again, you're my coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Actually, this isn't nearly as dire as what I thought you and We've were hinting at. I thought you were referring more specifically to Jackie boy. Frankly, after pooping the bed vs Colorado and Arizona, it's hard to argue with your actual theory quoted above. I can't speak for True but I don't believe he shares the point of view he posted about. Particularly in light of how this undefinable "it" characteristic great players are supposed to have, comes from the same family as "clutch", and we should know his feelings on that. I think they're a shallow team with some talent deficiencies, incredibly young core pieces, and a horrendously outdated system and that this accounts for the perceived lack of "it". A team with these situations is not going to win hockey games and I don't feel a need to go into the mystical realm of "it-ness" to explain it. JMO. Well said. Edited March 4, 2017 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 I think they're a shallow team with some talent deficiencies, incredibly young core pieces, and a horrendously outdated system and that this accounts for the perceived lack of "it". A team with these situations is not going to win hockey games and I don't feel a need to go into the mystical realm of "it-ness" to explain it. JMO. Occam's razor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 In re the team being shallow and just not very good (yet): That lineup without Okposo? I see Moulson and Deslauriers and a not yet effective Ennis? Blechk. And that's to say nothing of the D. That's just not a good team. Some good/very good pieces, one great one. But not a good team, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 I can't speak for True but I don't believe he shares the point of view he posted about. Particularly in light of how this undefinable "it" characteristic great players are supposed to have, comes from the same family as "clutch", and we should know his feelings on that. Yea, I don't believe in this stuff at all, I was just clearly posting what I thought Weave was hinting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Yea, I don't believe in this stuff at all, I was just clearly posting what I thought Weave was hinting at.Ah that's right, you don't believe in momentum. Damn robot Edited March 4, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Ah that's right, you don't believe in momentum. Damn robot Not even in game mo'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Ah that's right, you don't believe in momentum. Damn robot Not even in game mo'? In-game momentum may exist, but it's relatively meaningless because it's so easily broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 In-game momentum may exist, but it's relatively meaningless because it's so easily broken. "Ummmm...." - The Atlanta Falcons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 "Ummmm...." - The Atlanta Falcons That's a perfect example. They had ALL the momentum. The Pats should have curled up in the fetal position. If momentum had meaning, Atlanta would have run roughshod in the second half and won by 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 That's a perfect example. They had ALL the momentum. The Pats should have curled up in the fetal position. If momentum had meaning, Atlanta would have run roughshod in the second half and won by 40.All it takes is one play for momentum to shift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 "Ummmm...." - The Atlanta Falcons That never struck me as momentum, so much as execution and failure of execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 All it takes is one play for momentum to shift Exactly my point! Why give a damn about momentum if it can stop on a dime and completely reverse itself? That never struck me as momentum, so much as execution and failure of execution. One could argue that's all "momentum" actually means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Cause I would argue once you lose momentum, it is much more difficult to find that okay to regain it. And while you're struggling to make that big play, the other team is rolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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