hsif Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I am continually impressed with the play of ROR. It's the only good take-away I had from last night's game............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Ennis played 7:33 last night and was replaced by Carrier on Reino's line in the 2nd period (although not sure how long that lasted). Zemgus played 12:49. It's time to blow up that line. Agreed. I put one of those guys in Moulson's spot to get them going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Agreed. I put one of those guys in Moulson's spot to get them going. Even if it doesn't get them going, it at least gets Moulson off the top line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Even if it doesn't get them going, it at least gets Moulson off the top line.But, but, he's EARNED top line minutes. Didn't you know he has 4, count 'em 4, pp goals and 0 even strength goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Even if it doesn't get them going, it at least gets Moulson off the top line. Ya. I mean, the net gain of adding Reinhart to the top line is going to be greater than what you lose in scoring depth by breaking up line 3, as they aren't even scoring much together. Moving Reinhart to line one will not only I suspect increase the output of that line, it'll at least give us one line then can consistently score. Not having Jack has really limited our ability to ice two lines with an ability to score, and it'll be that way until Jack is back, Reinhart is able to manage the centre position, or he gets wingers more capable of producing with him. Might as well cut our losses and put together at least one line that can get it done offensively. Add in a quality grind-it-out line with Larsson and co., and just hope for a lucky bounce with line 3. I'd go with: Reinhart - O'Reilly - Okposo Foligno - Larsson - Gionta Carrier - Girgensons - Baptiste Ennis - Grant - Moulson I really think that works out better. Edited November 8, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Ya. I mean, the net gain of adding Reinhart to the top line is going to be greater than what you lose in scoring depth by breaking up line 3, as they aren't even scoring much together. Moving Reinhart to line one will not only I suspect increase the output of that line, it'll at least give us one line then can consistently score. Not having Jack has really limited our ability to ice two lines with an ability to score, and it'll be that way until Jack is back, Reinhart is able to manage the centre position, or he gets wingers more capable of producing with him. Might as well cut our losses and put together at least one line that can get it done offensively. Add in a quality grind-it-out line with Larsson and co., and just hope for a lucky bounce with line 3. I'd go with: Reinhart - O'Reilly - Okposo Foligno - Larsson - Gionta Carrier - Girgensons - Baptiste Ennis - Grant - Moulson I really think that works out better. I think I'd switch up the wings on the 3rd and 4th lines: Reinhart - O'Reilly - Okposo Foligno - Larsson - Gionta Ennis - Girgensons - Baptiste Carrier - Grant - Moulson ...but that's quibbling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I thought this was Zemgus's best game of the year so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I thought this was Zemgus's best game of the year so far.I'd still like to see Reinhart on the top line in place of Moulson, as I think that's what will draw the most offense out of Reinhart, the top line, and therefore the team. Girgs looks okay and he's skating hard, he's just not a point producer. (And neither Ennis, at this point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I'd still like to see Reinhart on the top line in place of Moulson, as I think that's what will draw the most offense out of Reinhart, the top line, and therefore the team. Girgs looks okay and he's skating hard, he's just not a point producer. (And neither Ennis, at this point) I agree. I think Zemgus has been pretty bad this year, so saying it was his best game is faint praise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I'd still like to see Reinhart on the top line in place of Moulson, as I think that's what will draw the most offense out of Reinhart, the top line, and therefore the team. Girgs looks okay and he's skating hard, he's just not a point producer. (And neither Ennis, at this point) Reinhart hasn't played LW other than one or two games this season. He's been at RW or C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Reinhart hasn't played LW other than one or two games this season. He's been at RW or C.I have been considering the idea of splitting up Okposo and O'Reilly. Let Sam ride shotgun with O'Reilly, and let Okposo drive the offense on our second line. I think at this point, Sam is an excellent complimentary piece, but he's not quite at the level where he can create offense for a line all by himself. I think he would be better off as center of the second line if we had anybody better than Ennis and Zemgus to flank him. Unfortunately, right now we don't. When Kane gets back... maybe. Or, have Sam center Okposo and x. Then O'Reilly plays with x and x. The first option gives us a better chance to win, I think. But it's not clear cut to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcsaberks Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 I am continually impressed with the play of ROR. It's the only good take-away I had from last night's game............... I thought this was Zemgus's best game of the year so far. I thought on the whole the Sabres were the more physical team led by Z, Gorges, Foligno and McCabe. Kinda tired of looking for positives in losses at this point, but the difference last night was the dumb penalties (OReilly, Z, McCabe, Grant), Lehner laying an egg, and the lack of elite finishing skill amongst our forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Reinhart hasn't played LW other than one or two games this season. He's been at RW or C. But if I recal correctly he looked good those 2 games, and him, Okposo and ROR connected on a sweet passing play for Okposo's first. I think Sam would be fine on the left for the time being, and produce more on his off side with ROR and Okposo than he would on his proper side with the likes of Girgensons and Ennis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 But if I recal correctly he looked good those 2 games, and him, Okposo and ROR connected on a sweet passing play for Okposo's first. I think Sam would be fine on the left for the time being, and produce more on his off side with ROR and Okposo than he would on his proper side with the likes of Girgensons and Ennis.Sam was OK during those two games. He was his usual smart self, but there was something of a learning curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Sam was OK during those two games. He was his usual smart self, but there was something of a learning curve. Sure. But the line was producing. That's the endgame I think We know Sam has the ability to learn new facets of the game rather quickly, I'm sure he can handle playing on his off wing. He's going to produce more there, on the top line, regardless. Edited November 8, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Sure. But the line was producing. That's the endgame I think We know Sam has the ability to learn new facets of the game rather quickly, I'm sure he can handle playing on his off wing. He's going to produce more there, on the top line, regardless. Yes but that is because they will open up space for him and right now he is playing weak hockey. Rob Ray noted it last night how a puck chipped around the boards and Reinhart went to the board to get the puck stick first and never put his body in there. Lost the puck btw. He needs to better and Eichel not being here isn't the reason. Reinhart is playing tentative hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 We've been here recently and I'm not beating this dead horse again. If you think Reinhart will produce more than Moulson on the top line, we are on the same page re: the lines discussion. If you don't, we are further away on Reinhart than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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