LGR4GM Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 There are some striking similarities. shhh ik :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I won't celebrate until the report is actually that he's agreed to come here versus strong hunches. Agreed Something else I believe there is NFW Murray gets fired if Babcock takes the job. If he did the Sabres would be most toxic organization in all of professional sports. GMTM and Nolan did not share the same vision for player usage and development, something he and Babcock would agree upon. Murray would be much likely to share roster control with someone he trusts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 You know sometime I read Hoss's post and I feel like I am looking into a mirror from my past. Except Hoss is already at 10k posts. You didn't hit your posting stride until later in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm sure plenty of posters know how old I am. They also don't care. And me being 22 probably doesn't relate to the conversation. You simply don't know. You've never been in the mind of a millionaire coach. Your assumption that they normally don't care about the family is a reach that goes against just about everything you hear. Their family is involved in these decisions nearly every single time. How the hell do you know anything about me? You are shockingly ignorant. Enjoy your youth! Life is short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 So if a poster spouts out complete ###### for 10,000 posts, he has credibility? Got it. Don't want to tell us your age, huh? OK. No one on this site that has 10k posts has any credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) No one on this site that has 10k posts has any credibility. Want to combine posts Whiskey? We can squeak out 10k and regain our credibility! ;) errr... lose our credibility! Edited May 19, 2015 by Touched by Boyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 No one on this site that has 10k posts has any credibility. That's only 15ppl. Also Chz has credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 The choice is Babcock's, but the guy is a stand-up guy and he is at least going to go to his wife and family for counsel. They have to live with him for the next five years, they know him best, they know how big this decision is and what he wants. Your wife, especially, but your kids and immediate family, too, all know more about how you are and what you'll be like. Babcock isn't an idiot, or a jerk, so I would lay a million bucks on the bet that his wife's input, at least, is considered nearly as strongly as his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Agreed Something else I believe there is NFW Murray gets fired if Babcock takes the job. If he did the Sabres would be most toxic organization in all of professional sports. GMTM and Nolan did not share the same vision for player usage and development, something he and Babcock would agree upon. Murray would be much likely to share roster control with someone he trusts Are you suggesting Murray would be fired if Babcock is hired because there would be a power struggle or personality clash? I am not sure that is the case, but none of us here knows that, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 How the hell do you know anything about me? You are shockingly ignorant. Enjoy your youth! Life is short. He's saying you don't know how much say the family has in this situation and thinking otherwise is silly. That's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Are you suggesting Murray would be fired if Babcock is hired because there would be a power struggle or personality clash? I am not sure that is the case, but none of us here knows that, for sure. I agree. Also shouldn't Tim Murray be leading the search for the next coach? He the GM, so it's his job to find the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Agreed Something else I believe there is NFW Murray gets fired if Babcock takes the job. If he did the Sabres would be most toxic organization in all of professional sports. GMTM and Nolan did not share the same vision for player usage and development, something he and Babcock would agree upon. Murray would be much likely to share roster control with someone he trusts Where does this come from? Why would Murray get fired if Babcock comes here? That's utter ridiculousness. And, you don't hire a guy like Babcock to ignore his roster preferences. You hire a guy like Babcock because you believe he knows what he's doing with the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 No one on this site that has 10k posts has any credibility. Don't really know if you are being serious, sarcastic, facetious, stupid, or what. Needless to say, that wasn't my point! But on the logical fallacy chart, your straw man argument earns a 9.8 for technical merit! For artistic presentation, 9.9! Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Roster preferences meaning, who comes up from Rochester and who gets benched in Buffalo. Who he would like to see shipped out? Stuff like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Where does this come from? Why would Murray get fired if Babcock comes here? That's utter ridiculousness. And, you don't hire a guy like Babcock to ignore his roster preferences. You hire a guy like Babcock because you believe he knows what he's doing with the roster. a few pages back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 How the hell do you know anything about me? You are shockingly ignorant. Enjoy your youth! Life is short. So you do know what it's like to be in the shoes of a millionaire coach? My bad for assuming otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm pretty sure Murray is chasing Babcock, not being dragged reluctantly along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Don't really know if you are being serious, sarcastic, facetious, stupid, or what. Needless to say, that wasn't my point! But on the logical fallacy chart, your straw man argument earns a 9.8 for technical merit! For artistic presentation, 9.9! Well done! lol the bolded was actually very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 He's saying you don't know how much say the family has in this situation and thinking otherwise is silly. That's all I never said I do. I suggest that, in my experience, people in Babcock's position do not consider ancillary factors like what the family thinks. If they did, they wouldn't be nearly as successful as Babcock has become. Do you see my point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 So if a poster spouts out complete ###### for 10,000 posts, he has credibility? Got it. How the hell do you know anything about me? You are shockingly ignorant. Enjoy your youth! Life is short. Dude. This is a great message board, if you'll only let it be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I never said I do. I suggest that, in my experience, people in Babcock's position do not consider ancillary factors like what the family thinks. If they did, they wouldn't be nearly as successful as Babcock has become. Do you see my point? So what is your experience? That was my original point. I don't think a woman you marry and the children you create together are "ancillary factors" in decisions that will change your and their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I suggest that, in my experience, people in Babcock's position do not consider ancillary factors like what the family thinks. If they did, they wouldn't be nearly as successful as Babcock has become. Predictively, what you say is true. OTOH, Babcock has been insistent that what his wife says and thinks carries great weight in this decision. Maybe he's just blowing smoke at her through the media. I tend to doubt that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 How the hell do you know anything about me? You are shockingly ignorant. Enjoy your youth! Life is short. Don't really know if you are being serious, sarcastic, facetious, stupid, or what. Needless to say, that wasn't my point! But on the logical fallacy chart, your straw man argument earns a 9.8 for technical merit! For artistic presentation, 9.9! Well done! Dude -- time to take it easy. Your hockey posts are good, but you're coming on a bit aggressively and there are too many insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruppstahl Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I agree. Also shouldn't Tim Murray be leading the search for the next coach? He the GM, so it's his job to find the coach. Well yes, in theory. The reality here is that Terry Pegula is likely involved in these sorts of decisions, with the input of Tim Murray of course. Tim has to dance on the fence with regard to pleasing his boss (Pegula) and being his own man. That can be tough. I think Pegula has the potential to impose his will in hockey operations when the mood strikes. Two examples: the additions of Christian Ehrhoff and Ville Leino. I believe both of those, particularly the latter, were the idea of Terry Pegula, individually. Their signings were facilitated by Regier of course, not Murray. But I don't think Regier would have necessarily signed either on his own accord. My point is that Pegula has shown that he will impose his will when he wants to. At least as far as I can tell. Dude. This is a great message board, if you'll only let it be one. Please practice what you preach my Sabres loving friend. Dude -- time to take it easy. Your hockey posts are good, but you're coming on a bit aggressively and there are too many insults. Fair enough and duly noted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I think Pegula has the potential to impose his will in hockey operations when the mood strikes. Two examples: the additions of Christian Ehrhoff and Ville Leino. I believe both of those, particularly the latter, were the idea of Terry Pegula, individually. My point is that Pegula has shown that he will impose his will when he wants to. At least as far as I can tell. Sacré Bleu! Révélation! Edited May 19, 2015 by That Aud Smell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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