FolignosJock Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 So according to capgeek we are 3 million over the cap currently, with the likely AHL banishment coming down on Shaone and Kotalik. But going into next off season we lose 17 million off the books with Boyes, hecht, and goose as well as the previously mentioned contracts. Next offseason we will need to get Myers an extension, hopefully resign grags, ennis and kaleta. That leaves by my extremely rough estimate around 9 millionish left for free agents. What would you like to see happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 So according to capgeek we are 3 million over the cap currently, with the likely AHL banishment coming down on Shaone and Kotalik. But going into next off season we lose 17 million off the books with Boyes, hecht, and goose as well as the previously mentioned contracts. Next offseason we will need to get Myers an extension, hopefully resign grags, ennis and kaleta. That leaves by my extremely rough estimate around 9 millionish left for free agents. What would you like to see happen? I think we'll trade Shaone for a draft pick this fall. He's still young and has value to a team that is short on veteran d-men. If that happens, by my count we only have $12.992 mil. coming off the books due to UFAs next year (Boyes, Hecht, Kotalik, Goose, plus $167 from Kennedy). And, the two Tylers should eat up a good part of that. I assume one or two of the forward spots will go to youngsters (Kassian, Foligno, etc.). I wouldn't be shocked to see the team re-sign Goose for size, leadership and faceoff ability. So maybe one FA forward with a relatively high price tag next year? Hard to speculate without seeing what the 2011-2012 team looks like. Is it hockey season yet...?! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 So according to capgeek we are 3 million over the cap currently, with the likely AHL banishment coming down on Shaone and Kotalik. But going into next off season we lose 17 million off the books with Boyes, hecht, and goose as well as the previously mentioned contracts. Next offseason we will need to get Myers an extension, hopefully resign grags, ennis and kaleta. That leaves by my extremely rough estimate around 9 millionish left for free agents. What would you like to see happen? If we are looking at UFA's, Sharp and Stoll will be coming up. For RFA's, Tavares and Duchene would probably be the top targets. Maybe Omark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 If we are looking at UFA's, Sharp and Stoll will be coming up. For RFA's, Tavares and Duchene would probably be the top targets. Maybe Omark. Sharp just signed a 5 year extension a few weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 As fun and interesting as it is to speculate, at some point you have to acknowledge how ridiculous it is to do so. So much can change between now and then. Trades can happen, especially at the trade deadline. I'm not trying to shoot down the thread, it's just that every time I look that far ahead, I get lost in all the possibilities :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frisky Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Thats way too far ahead in the future for me. Just want to see how this year goes and worry about next year then. Although I would like to see myers locked up long term now. As for the rest, see how the chips fall first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I want to know how we're going to get under the cap for this season, I dont think this is the final roster, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I want to see how well Leino looks at center before I talk about a wish list for next year. My gut tells me center will still be fairly high on our list of needs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I want to know how we're going to get under the cap for this season, I dont think this is the final roster, so to speak. It's clearly stated in the original post. Just to be sure you get it, the Sabres are going to send down Morrisson and Kotalik. That's your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sharp just signed a 5 year extension a few weeks back. Whoops! Sorry, didnt realize that! Anyways, it can be fun to speculate. I would rather see how some of our youth develops rather than reaching outside, but Tavares would be a solid addition (the local connection also helps). I am very curious to see if he is going to be willing/ interested to stay with NYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 If the Sabres managed to get Tavares, I would be beyond satisfied. I would take Tavares over Duchene, Stastny, and probably even Spezza. Unfortunately the Isles seem to have a pretty good thing going with all their youth, I would be shocked if they let Tavares get away... offer sheet or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I know its hard to look that far in the future but the offseason is killing me and I know nothing about hot sauce so Im pretty much out of all the threads that are going on right now :nana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I know its hard to look that far in the future but the offseason is killing me and I know nothing about hot sauce so Im pretty much out of all the threads that are going on right now :nana: Then take up drinking. There's about 4 active threads on booze right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Then take up drinking. There's about 4 active threads on booze right now. How could someone have been a Sabres fan over the previous 15 40 years and not have already taken up drinking? :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Then take up drinking. There's about 4 active threads on booze right now. I have :beer: :beer: :beer: but i want to talk a little bit about hockey as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 If the Sabres managed to get Tavares, I would be beyond satisfied. I would take Tavares over Duchene, Stastny, and probably even Spezza. Unfortunately the Isles seem to have a pretty good thing going with all their youth, I would be shocked if they let Tavares get away... offer sheet or otherwise. Well, since the stars that were eligible (Stamkos, Doughty, etc.) didn't get offer-sheeted this year, it probably won't happen with Tavares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Well, since the stars that were eligible (Stamkos, Doughty, etc.) didn't get offer-sheeted this year, it probably won't happen with Tavares. Probably not. But just because player A B and C didn't get an offer sheet in 2006 didn't stop Edmonton from giving Vanek an offer sheet in 2007, did it? It could happen, but that's beside the point anyway. Like I said, NY wouldn't let him leave... be it by offer sheet or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 While there was an offer sheet process prior to the lock out, it hadn't been used in the six years preceding it. With the salary cap that accompanied the new CBA, GM's went back to the offer sheet. Only 6 offer sheets have been signed since the lockout, and Penner is the only player to change teams. There have been no offer sheets in the last couple years. I believe they are fading back into obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 While there was an offer sheet process prior to the lock out, it hadn't been used in the six years preceding it. With the salary cap that accompanied the new CBA, GM's went back to the offer sheet. Only 6 offer sheets have been signed since the lockout, and Penner is the only player to change teams. There have been no opffer sheets in the last couple years. I believe they are fading back into obscurity. But the topic will come back every season regardless. It's a conversation piece, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Geez, I didn't mean to throw everybody off topic on this offer sheet tangent by suggestion that... *wait for it* ... the Islanders wouldn't let Tavares go to an offer sheet in the unlikely even that somebody slips him one, or via trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 If the Sabres managed to get Tavares, I would be beyond satisfied. I would take Tavares over Duchene, Stastny, and probably even Spezza. Unfortunately the Isles seem to have a pretty good thing going with all their youth, I would be shocked if they let Tavares get away... offer sheet or otherwise. The Isles have a very nice young core, but that might not be enough to keep him there. He might be unhappy with the rickety building and fickle fan base. I would think of all the teams, Buffalo would have the best chance at getting him, if he does decide to leave. He was a former Bandits ball boy after all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5th line wingnutt Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 How could someone have been a Sabres fan over the previous 15 40 years and not have already taken up drinking? :devil: Well, there are other drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5th line wingnutt Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Assume the following: No preseason injuries. No trades except involving Kotalik, Morrisonn, Gragnani, or Ellis, for picks or prospects. The Sabres send the above 4 players to Rochester. This leaves 20 players on the NHL roster. They then are 2,004,643 below the salary cap. Ellis has a 2 way contract this year but a 1 way contract next year. Suppose we send Ellis to Rochester but recall him later. If some one claims him we have to pay half of his salary this season. What about next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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