X. Benedict Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Instead we just waited 5 years to possibly win one playoff series. With that persistent sound of you pounding nails through your own hands. ... in hockey purgatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 With that persistent sound of you pounding nails through your own hands. ... in hockey purgatory. It sure isn't the sound of the Sabres defense or wingers pounding anyone into the boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 According to who? If he was really that out of shape, and still managed 20 goals, a normal and efficient manager would say to himself, "Holy $#!* imagine what this guy will do once we sharpen him up!" But he went straight to the tank here. You put a US Marine in a Bejing elite unit for drills, and he will look like a flounder. Doesn't mean in the real world he couldn't slice 10 of those guys up and down. Other teams take advantage of Sabres mismanagement, not the other way around. That is why we are stuck in Hockey Purgatory he didnt manage 20 goals here. He didnt manage 20pts... im not sure he played 20 games and no i disagree with your analogy and your premise. Last Year Torres was out of shape and clearly had a nagging yet not to serious injury. He worked over the summer got healthy and in shape and is better for it. Not to mention he plays with KESLER! I could score 20 goals playing with him and sedins. You put a seal in the Bejing special forces and they would excel you put a erie country sheriff and they would suck. Thats the analogy. Torres is a guy who needs strong support players to look good. Buf didnt have him so he failed. o and its was 19 goals 17 assists for 36 points ooooo aaaahhh what a winner! AND HE HAD 29pts this year WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 he didnt manage 20 goals here. He didnt manage 20pts... im not sure he played 20 games and no i disagree with your analogy and your premise. Last Year Torres was out of shape and clearly had a nagging yet not to serious injury. He worked over the summer got healthy and in shape and is better for it. Not to mention he plays with KESLER! I could score 20 goals playing with him and sedins. You put a seal in the Bejing special forces and they would excel you put a erie country sheriff and they would suck. Thats the analogy. Torres is a guy who needs strong support players to look good. Buf didnt have him so he failed. o and its was 19 goals 17 assists for 36 points ooooo aaaahhh what a winner! AND HE HAD 29pts this year WOW! I know, skimpy. Pyatt 18 goals.....Torres 15 goals, including a Stanley Cup game winner, all for a total of less than $2 million. Let's see...33 goals....how to get there?.....Boyes and Pominville got you 39....that was only $9.3 million......lemme see.....ummm here we go!....Hecht, Gaustad, Niedermayer and Grier...that's 34 goals and only $8 million.....maybe we could hook up say...Connolly, and Roy?...nah...that's not it...only 23 goals for $8.5 million. I guess you and X make a good point. A couple of 4th line talent busts score 33 goals for $1.9 million, but your top 4 centers and 4 of your top 6 wingers going into the year crushed them with 96 goals for $25.8 million. How could I ever question the roster management or development of this organization?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeGelato Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Sabres re-sign Stafford. Sabres Twitter reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnkirishone Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 tone down the asshating please. You hate the sabres we get it. The only thing that would change your mind would be the sabres winning a cup. No wait i take it back. If they win one you will be here to say see they suck they only won it once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 WKBW News just reported on air that Drew Stafford is signed to a multi-year contract. No details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 tone down the asshating please. You hate the sabres we get it. The only thing that would change your mind would be the sabres winning a cup. No wait i take it back. If they win one you will be here to say see they suck they only won it once He's has every right to voice his opinion here. Pro tip- You can always use the ignore feature to block his posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Sabres re-sign Stafford. Sabres Twitter reports Nothing on Sabres website, but TSN reporting it as well. Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 The Sabres just posted it on Facebook as well, no details as yet, other than multi-year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Norris Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 stafford signed to multi year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdexchange Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 6yrs 28mil w/ NTC is what I'm seeing on twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 6yrs 28mil w/ NTC is what I'm seeing on twitter There goes moving our most moveable asset. He better be the real deal. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 There goes moving our most moveable asset. He better be the real deal. <_< Yes. It is more important to move 30 goal scorer who is 25 years old, instead of re-signing that player, showing the organization and others throughout the NHL that you are committed. :rolleyes: if this is true...4.66 Million for a guy who can be a 60 pt player and 30 goals is a good contract. Good job Regier and Pegula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdexchange Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Mike Harrington says 4x4...I like that alot better if it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I know, skimpy. Pyatt 18 goals.....Torres 15 goals, including a Stanley Cup game winner, all for a total of less than $2 million. Let's see...33 goals....how to get there?.....Boyes and Pominville got you 39....that was only $9.3 million......lemme see.....ummm here we go!....Hecht, Gaustad, Niedermayer and Grier...that's 34 goals and only $8 million.....maybe we could hook up say...Connolly, and Roy?...nah...that's not it...only 23 goals for $8.5 million. I guess you and X make a good point. A couple of 4th line talent busts score 33 goals for $1.9 million, but your top 4 centers and 4 of your top 6 wingers going into the year crushed them with 96 goals for $25.8 million. How could I ever question the roster management or development of this organization?? You notice the money aspect is being ignored. I would agree Stafford is the more talented player, he just isn't three times the player or $3 mil better than the others. When talking about Stafford the point becomes value. The more beyond $3 mil a year the conversation goes the less value there is in Stafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Mike Harrington says 4x4...I like that alot better if it's true. $16 mil for 32 games? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawj80 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 For a split second the Sabres Facebook said 4x4 but now its gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 You notice the money aspect is being ignored. I would agree Stafford is the more talented player, he just isn't three times the player or $3 mil better than the others. When talking about Stafford the point becomes value. The more beyond $3 mil a year the conversation goes the less value there is in Stafford. What they have pretty much done is given Stafford, Connolly's old salary, now need to find a #2 center, will have the increase in cap dollars eaten up by the RFAs, and need to replace Montador who was their most consistant D-man for the first 60 games of the season. It will be almost the exact same team as last season except it will cost more. Once they talk to Myers about long term, Katie bar the door. Boyes, Stafford, Hecht, Pominville, Vanek.....$25 million. Suck on them apples as you send in your $7,000 for a pair of club seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braedon Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 if this is true...4.66 Million for a guy who can be a 60 pt player and 30 goals is a good contract. Good job Regier and Pegula I'd say it's good for a player that "is", not that can be. I'm not going to gripe about size of the contract, as it remains to be seen if it's a good value or not or not. However potential gets you nowhere. There's only those that "can be" and those that "are". I will say if the NTC is in there, I'm not happy about it. One thing I can't stand is purposely tying your own hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 If it's s $4 million cap hit it's a tremendous deal. $4.6 would be high but palatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 If it's s $4 million cap hit it's a tremendous deal. $4.6 would be high but palatable. 4 isn't disgusting. $28 for 6 years and a NTC is as good as retirement for him. I think he desrved a nice bump for his production and 4 won't be too out of line. But we are now paying $25 mil for 5 wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 With the cap going up, some value for another year or two at the back end and hopefully some value in the third and fourth makes the $25 mil work though I wouldn't be surprised if one of them is gone. Btw, closed the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 With the cap going up, some value for another year or two at the back end and hopefully some value in the third and fourth makes the $25 mil work though I wouldn't be surprised if one of them is gone. Btw, closed the deal. I don't know who will give them anything of value unless Vanek is involved. We'd have to eat an overpaid vet in return. Nice. Hopefully it involved a strip club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 With the cap going up, some value for another year or two at the back end and hopefully some value in the third and fourth makes the $25 mil work though I wouldn't be surprised if one of them is gone. Btw, closed the deal. Who knew "Hockey Heaven" was Status Quo? :doh: Another bad contract to be added to the pile of bad contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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