carpandean Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Settle for 1 out of 3? Is your fridge well stocked? 'Cause that would be close enough to 2 out of 3 ... assuming you weren't talking about #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Is your fridge well stocked? 'Cause that would be close enough to 2 out of 3 ... assuming you weren't talking about #2. #1 wasn't in any particular order. I leave it 2 ur imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Wings Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Kaberle. If they can't get him, Marc-Andre Bergeron (who seems more realistic, anyway). Cullen. If Connolly is somewhere else, that might even be enough. And any one of the three things that Ink mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresnutinphoenix Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Don't be surprised if Darcy makes a run for Sergei Gonchar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 There's only one thing this team needs, a true top line centerman with skill, guts, and a good work ethic to lead this team. His name is Brad Richards, and the way Dallas is going, there would be a million reasons for them to take something like Connolly/Roy/Sekera for him, and it would be the best trade this team has made in decades. But Malhotra would certainly be a nice change from Gaustad, wouldn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Anton Volchenkov this off-season and Chara next off season. As long as we're daydreaming, I'll say that Myers and Chara would be a latter-day Pronger and Niedermayer. Don't be surprised if Darcy makes a run for Sergei Gonchar... I'd be very happy to get Gonchar for a 2-year deal, but I don't think Darcy is going to sign any Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 I'd be very happy to get Gonchar for a 2-year deal, but I don't think Darcy is going to sign any Russians. All the speculation on Gonchar says that he wants 3 years. I can't see anyone giving that to him at 36 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Wanted Horton. Boston get him. Wanted Kaberle. We wont get him. Wanted Patrick Sharp. Atlanta ruined everything. I suppose we'll end up signing Joe Corvo if nothing better comes his way. Darcy will have his garbage picking gloves on come July 2nd. Yes to all of this.... I would also love to see Iginla in a Sabres sweater. Maybe Vinny, too. :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Lombardi Sutton Boogard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VansTheMans Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 I'm hearing rumblings that Bobby Ryan turned down the Duck's offer. He's an RFA. Time to get our poaching on :beer: The Ducks offered him in the ball park of 4M+ for 5 years. He wants more and is waiting for an offer sheet. We could toss him an offer at 5M for 6 years. We'd have to surrender our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft picks next year (I believe) if we were to acquire him as well. However, I think he'd be more than worth it. Top Six Vanek Ennis Ryan Kennedy Roy Pommers -Connolly, -Stafford (Assuming we trade them for picks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VansTheMans Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Forwards Vanek Ennis Ryan = 7 + .85 + 5 = 12.85 Kennedy Roy Pommers = 1.5 + 4 + 5.3 = 10.8 Hecht Goose Grier = 3.25 + 2.3 + 1.5 = 7.05 Ellis Mair Kaleta = .5 + .8 + 1 = 2.3 Gerbe = .85 McCormick = .6 34.45M Defense Myers = 1.3 Rivet = 3.5 Montador = 1.5 Sekera = 1 Butler = 1 Weber = 1 Grangani = 1 10.3M Goalies Miller = 6.25 Biron = 1 7.25M 34.45 + 10.3 + 7.25 = 52 Million 52 Million / 59.4 Million -Acquired Bobby Ryan from the Anaheim Ducks. Offered him a 30 Million Dollar, 6 year contract. Surrendered our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks in the 2011 Draft. -Removed Connolly and Stafford from the team. Traded them for any sort of picks to make up for the loss of picks by acquiring Bobby Ryan. -Signed RFA's Kaleta and Kennedy (Kaleta signs for 1M, Kennedy for 1.5M). -Signed Mike Weber for 1M (up from 800K). Signed Gragnani for 1M (up from 800K). -I kept Ellis at the 500K he currently earns. Brought back Mair at the 800K he currently makes. -Brought back Marty Biron for 1M. -Stayed 7 million dollars under the cap. The surplus can be used to sign/acquire a couple veteran dmen to toughen up a weak defense. Plausible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanny Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Forwards Vanek Ennis Ryan = 7 + .85 + 5 = 12.85 Kennedy Roy Pommers = 1.5 + 4 + 5.3 = 10.8 Hecht Goose Grier = 3.25 + 2.3 + 1.5 = 7.05 Ellis Mair Kaleta = .5 + .8 + 1 = 2.3 Gerbe = .85 McCormick = .6 34.45M Defense Myers = 1.3 Rivet = 3.5 Montador = 1.5 Sekera = 1 Butler = 1 Weber = 1 Grangani = 1 10.3M Goalies Miller = 6.25 Biron = 1 7.25M 34.45 + 10.3 + 7.25 = 52 Million 52 Million / 59.4 Million -Acquired Bobby Ryan from the Anaheim Ducks. Offered him a 30 Million Dollar, 6 year contract. Surrendered our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks in the 2011 Draft. -Removed Connolly and Stafford from the team. Traded them for any sort of picks to make up for the loss of picks by acquiring Bobby Ryan. -Signed RFA's Kaleta and Kennedy (Kaleta signs for 1M, Kennedy for 1.5M). -Signed Mike Weber for 1M (up from 800K). Signed Gragnani for 1M (up from 800K). -I kept Ellis at the 500K he currently earns. Brought back Mair at the 800K he currently makes. -Brought back Marty Biron for 1M. -Stayed 7 million dollars under the cap. The surplus can be used to sign/acquire a couple veteran dmen to toughen up a weak defense. Plausible? How high can that offer to Ryan go before they have to give up four 1st's? I only ask because Anaheim was rumored to be offering Ryan something in the $4 Million per year range and I'm not sure they'd have a problem matching $5 Mill being so far under the cap. I'd also keep Connolly, Ennis doesn't have a long enough track record to count on him at center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 I see Biron as the most likely addition, almost a lock in my opinion. I dont see anyone major going, least of all Roy or Connolly (Connolly I see as excess baggage but Roy I still have faith in). However I agree that our major need is a number 1 center and of course something to help our pathetic power play (even if it's just pack of Duracell's for Vanek). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Defense Myers = 1.3 Rivet = 3.5 Montador = 1.5 Sekera = 1 Butler = 1 Weber = 1 Grangani = 1 10.3M -Stayed 7 million dollars under the cap. The surplus can be used to sign/acquire a couple veteran dmen to toughen up a weak defense. Plausible? Will definitely need some veteran d-men in there, hopefully someone with PP experience. I like it, seems plausible. If Gonchar gets reasonable and accepts a 2yr deal then he's definitely worth it, however if he does accept a 2yr deal then expect open season as just about every team in the league will be after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Forwards Vanek Ennis Ryan = 7 + .85 + 5 = 12.85 Kennedy Roy Pommers = 1.5 + 4 + 5.3 = 10.8 Hecht Goose Grier = 3.25 + 2.3 + 1.5 = 7.05 Ellis Mair Kaleta = .5 + .8 + 1 = 2.3 Gerbe = .85 McCormick = .6 34.45M Defense Myers = 1.3 Rivet = 3.5 Montador = 1.5 Sekera = 1 Butler = 1 Weber = 1 Grangani = 1 10.3M Goalies Miller = 6.25 Biron = 1 7.25M 34.45 + 10.3 + 7.25 = 52 Million 52 Million / 59.4 Million -Acquired Bobby Ryan from the Anaheim Ducks. Offered him a 30 Million Dollar, 6 year contract. Surrendered our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks in the 2011 Draft. -Removed Connolly and Stafford from the team. Traded them for any sort of picks to make up for the loss of picks by acquiring Bobby Ryan. -Signed RFA's Kaleta and Kennedy (Kaleta signs for 1M, Kennedy for 1.5M). -Signed Mike Weber for 1M (up from 800K). Signed Gragnani for 1M (up from 800K). -I kept Ellis at the 500K he currently earns. Brought back Mair at the 800K he currently makes. -Brought back Marty Biron for 1M. -Stayed 7 million dollars under the cap. The surplus can be used to sign/acquire a couple veteran dmen to toughen up a weak defense. Plausible? The Bobby Ryan thing isn't happening. The Ducks will not let him get away. As for your money figures, you can actually free up a small amount more because Weber and Gragnani will sign their qualifying offers. They have done nothing to earn more than the basic raise that goes along with the QO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Forwards Vanek Ennis Ryan = 7 + .85 + 5 = 12.85 Kennedy Roy Pommers = 1.5 + 4 + 5.3 = 10.8 Hecht Goose Grier = 3.25 + 2.3 + 1.5 = 7.05 Ellis Mair Kaleta = .5 + .8 + 1 = 2.3 Gerbe = .85 McCormick = .6 34.45M Defense Myers = 1.3 Rivet = 3.5 Montador = 1.5 Sekera = 1 Butler = 1 Weber = 1 Grangani = 1 10.3M Goalies Miller = 6.25 Biron = 1 7.25M 34.45 + 10.3 + 7.25 = 52 Million 52 Million / 59.4 Million -Acquired Bobby Ryan from the Anaheim Ducks. Offered him a 30 Million Dollar, 6 year contract. Surrendered our 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks in the 2011 Draft. -Removed Connolly and Stafford from the team. Traded them for any sort of picks to make up for the loss of picks by acquiring Bobby Ryan. -Signed RFA's Kaleta and Kennedy (Kaleta signs for 1M, Kennedy for 1.5M). -Signed Mike Weber for 1M (up from 800K). Signed Gragnani for 1M (up from 800K). -I kept Ellis at the 500K he currently earns. Brought back Mair at the 800K he currently makes. -Brought back Marty Biron for 1M. -Stayed 7 million dollars under the cap. The surplus can be used to sign/acquire a couple veteran dmen to toughen up a weak defense. Plausible? Kennedy is not a top six forward. He's a nice young forward that needs to finish cutting his teeth on the third and fourth lines. Speaking of which, I would expect about 20-30 goals combined from the third and fourth lines as you have them. Nothing against how you have the lines it just points out the serious lack of talent the Sabres have in the forward ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 How high can that offer to Ryan go before they have to give up four 1st's? I only ask because Anaheim was rumored to be offering Ryan something in the $4 Million per year range and I'm not sure they'd have a problem matching $5 Mill being so far under the cap. I'd also keep Connolly, Ennis doesn't have a long enough track record to count on him at center. Compensation for Offer Sheets: If an RFA signs an offer sheet from a different team, the original team is entitled to compensation in the form of draft picks from the next year's draft (All figures are estimates, and change each season): Offer sheet < $860,000 annually: No compensation Offer sheet between $860,000 - $1.3 million annually: 3rd round pick Offer sheet between $1.3 million - $2.6 million annually: 2nd round pick Offer sheet between $2.6 million - $4 million annually: 1st and 3rd round pick Offer sheet between $4 million - $5.2 million annually: 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick Offer sheet between $5.2 million - $6.5 million annually: Two 1sts, one 2nd, and one 3rd round pick Offer sheet > $6.5 million annually: Four 1st round picks The amount is determined by taking the total compensation due in the Offer Sheet, and dividing by the number of years specified in the Offer Sheet, or five (5) - whichever is less. I would think these went up a bit with the cap recently. I'll check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Dance Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Sorry to be the "glass half-empty" guy, but I don't hold out any hope that DR + LQ will add anyone through free agency. So, for my personal wish list I want: Jennifer Aniston Jennifer Connelly Jennifer Garner not necessarily in that order. Hey, the topic was "Who do you want?" :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Sorry to be the "glass half-empty" guy, but I don't hold out any hope that DR + LQ will add anyone through free agency. So, for my personal wish list I want: Jennifer Aniston Jennifer Connelly Jennifer Garner not necessarily in that order. Hey, the topic was "Who do you want?" :blush: Jennifer Garner is almost as ugly as Hillary Swank. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Jennifer Garner is almost as ugly as Hillary Swank. :ph34r: Funny story. A couple years ago after she had a baby, Garner was working out with the same guy who runs the strength and conditioning program for the BU hockey team. She was quoted by one of the local papers that she was kind of upset that none of the hockey players flirted with her. I wonder why Jennifer, I wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VansTheMans Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Kennedy is not a top six forward. He's a nice young forward that needs to finish cutting his teeth on the third and fourth lines. Speaking of which, I would expect about 20-30 goals combined from the third and fourth lines as you have them. Nothing against how you have the lines it just points out the serious lack of talent the Sabres have in the forward ranks. Sign Kotalik for 800K, put him on the 4th line? He may be able to chip in 10-15 goals a year. :thumbsup: Or, I could always substitute Gerbe in for one of the 3rd/4th liners if I'm looking for more scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Sign Kotalik for 800K, put him on the 4th line? I don't know; I just have a hard time with the thought of using "Kotalik" and "energy" (line) in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullwinkle Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Sign Kotalik for 800K, put him on the 4th line? He may be able to chip in 10-15 goals a year. :thumbsup: Or, I could always substitute Gerbe in for one of the 3rd/4th liners if I'm looking for more scoring. AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! We were lucky to get rid of this guy, as were the Rangers. Why do you want a lazy semi-talented do-nothing back on this team? He was an addition by subtraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billfold100 Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Any combo of these: Madden, Malholtra, M. Staal, Lombardi, Hartnell, Doan, Volchenkov, Boogaard Edit - Colby Armstrong too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Sign Kotalik for 800K, put him on the 4th line? He may be able to chip in 10-15 goals a year. :thumbsup: Or, I could always substitute Gerbe in for one of the 3rd/4th liners if I'm looking for more scoring. I'd rather sign Grant Ledyard than bring back Kotalik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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