Calvin Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 but I haven't even heard RUMOURS that either will be traded following the opposite-of-Eck theory, that probably means that at least one of them is gone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 I think hurt feelings and he's making too much to be a healthy scratch are out the window. If Myers is playing well enough to be in the top 6 then he will be there. Tallinder will be gone by training camp and if he's not he will be #7. I bet Myers pairs with the tough vet Montador (Rivet stays with Butler) and Sekera can skate with Lydman. I like this. Have to check on right or left handed player match-up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stenbaro Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Just for the record, Myers would play in the WHL, not the OHL. Anyway, like nfreeman mentioned, Myers with the Sabres would pretty much hinge on Tallinder being [/b]moved. I don't think it would be as tough to move him as some people make it sound though. Teams are always looking for D and they'll find a taker if they really want to. As for Weber, after the rough year he has last season, another year in the AHL looks like his best option at this point. Whatever happens with him, he absolutely needs to move back in the right direction or there could be some serious problems there. I wouldnt go there with that yet..They love him and they are ready to play him at the NHL level...No matter who sits he will get plenty of time on a regular shift as the season moves on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 I like this. Have to check on right or left handed player match-up though. The Butler-Rivet pair is fine, but the other two pairs are two righties (Myers-Montador) and two lefties (Sekera-Lydman.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repster Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 What has the organization done thus far that makes you believe that "Tallinder will be gone for sure" or possibly lydman. True this board has been calling that all summer but I haven't even heard RUMOURS that either will be traded. Many ppl are still saying that Myers will make the team. Fine, but I still can't see Darcy moving a Dman. If he doesn't then someones gotta ride the pine, I'm just wondering who. I wouldn't put it past Darcy that he believes Tallinder and Lydman are going to have breakout years because they are in the final year of their contract. Could it happen? Yes, Spach had a nice year last year, but I think what you see is what you get especially with Tallinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Apparently, Myers won't be getting a look from the Sabres this year. Linky MYERS NEEDS WORK: The signing of Steve Montador means 2008 first-round pick Tyler Myers doesn?t have to be ready to step into the Sabres lineup just yet ? and that?s probably a good thing. Myers has all the tools, and the 6-foot-6 rearguard has great wheels with a reach that makes coaches drool. He emerged as the season played out in the Western Hockey League, leading Kelowna to a Memorial Cup appearance. That said, his camp was average. Myers found himself off-balance against forwards who probably won?t ever sniff an NHL locker room. He is quick and has the skills to play in the league, but he didn?t look NHL-ready through many of the sessions. Don?t be surprised if he starts the season back in Kelowna, although he?s got too many gifts to not be one of the team?s best players in the future. He better be. The team gave up on injury-prone Mike Funk and prospect Mike Card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrcursed Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Apparently, Myers won't be getting a look from the Sabres this year. Linky MYERS NEEDS WORK: The signing of Steve Montador means 2008 first-round pick Tyler Myers doesn?t have to be ready to step into the Sabres lineup just yet ? and that?s probably a good thing. Myers has all the tools, and the 6-foot-6 rearguard has great wheels with a reach that makes coaches drool. He emerged as the season played out in the Western Hockey League, leading Kelowna to a Memorial Cup appearance. That said, his camp was average. Myers found himself off-balance against forwards who probably won?t ever sniff an NHL locker room. He is quick and has the skills to play in the league, but he didn?t look NHL-ready through many of the sessions. Don?t be surprised if he starts the season back in Kelowna, although he?s got too many gifts to not be one of the team?s best players in the future. He better be. The team gave up on injury-prone Mike Funk and prospect Mike Card. There's no way he's worse than Hank, no way. You were there Ink, would you agree with this article? (Not sure if you got to see enough of him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 You were there Ink, would you agree with this article? (Not sure if you got to see enough of him) Not sure if I did see enough of him, but like Gerbe I'll use my jump to conclusions mat. He just looked like another guy there. Butler might have stood out a little but the only reason Myers stood out was because he's tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Not sure if I did see enough of him, but like Gerbe I'll use my jump to conclusions mat. He just looked like another guy there. Butler might have stood out a little but the only reason Myers stood out was because he's tall. I see someone is up early reading their Niagara Gazette! :thumbsup: After that fluff article on Gerbe, I'd say they are just taking a stab. (Think Ecklund) From everything I have read their would be no reason not to start this kid in Buffalo and see if he is as good as advertised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 From everything I have read their would be no reason not to start this kid in Buffalo and see if he is as good as advertised. I think there has been too much hype. Not nearly to the level of Myers, but I just have my doubts about a guy his size. I've seen really short hockey players but Nathan looks like he's 5'2". He produced at the AHL level, and I hope he can on the NHL level, but to me he just looks like an embarrassingly small fringe hockey NHL player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Apparently, Myers won't be getting a look from the Sabres this year. Linky MYERS NEEDS WORK: The signing of Steve Montador means 2008 first-round pick Tyler Myers doesn't have to be ready to step into the Sabres lineup just yet ? and that's probably a good thing. Myers has all the tools, and the 6-foot-6 rearguard has great wheels with a reach that makes coaches drool. He emerged as the season played out in the Western Hockey League, leading Kelowna to a Memorial Cup appearance. That said, his camp was average. Myers found himself off-balance against forwards who probably won't ever sniff an NHL locker room. He is quick and has the skills to play in the league, but he didn't look NHL-ready through many of the sessions. Don't be surprised if he starts the season back in Kelowna, although he's got too many gifts to not be one of the team's best players in the future. He better be. The team gave up on injury-prone Mike Funk and prospect Mike Card. Your first sentence is quite a leap, especially considering the source of this "scouting report." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Your first sentence is quite a leap, especially considering the source of this "scouting report." I was using my jump to conclusions mat. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I was using my jump to conclusions mat. :thumbsup: Oh, too bad you don't a sweet pair of honeydews and a habit of forgetting where you put your sports bra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I said some time ago that Myers won't stay with the big club this year. So I'll stick with that belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 They need to keep Myers up, even if he's not quite ready. He is the future of the defense and needs the experience. If Luke Schenn can stick a whole year, so can Myers. He'll have rough times, but he's not going to gain anything by going back to junior. This is one of those times where being with the big club will help him advance, as opposed to hinder it. I don't think he's the type that will be ruined by staying up. Schenn wasn't ruined on an awful Leaf club. Myers will be fine. No time like the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 They need to keep Myers up, even if he's not quite ready. He is the future of the defense and needs the experience. If Luke Schenn can stick a whole year, so can Myers. He'll have rough times, but he's not going to gain anything by going back to junior. This is one of those times where being with the big club will help him advance, as opposed to hinder it. I don't think he's the type that will be ruined by staying up. Schenn wasn't ruined on an awful Leaf club. Myers will be fine. No time like the present. .. and at what point do they decide that the season is a wash and we might as well keep all the kids up to get some big league experience? remember, even around the trade deadline last season the Penguins were floundering and suddenly 'found' it.. to the point where teams would rather play the B's than the Pens in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 .. and at what point do they decide that the season is a wash and we might as well keep all the kids up to get some big league experience? remember, even around the trade deadline last season the Penguins were floundering and suddenly 'found' it.. to the point where teams would rather play the B's than the Pens in the playoffs They have 9 games to decide, before he has to go back to juniors. I guess if they go 1-8 or 0-9, the season could be considered a wash. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 remember, even around the trade deadline last season the Penguins were floundering and suddenly 'found' it.. to the point where teams would rather play the B's than the Pens in the playoffs I'm a little foggy on the details here, but for some reason I feel like Pittsburgh had already righted the ship by the time the deadline hit. Then they added a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I'm a little foggy on the details here, but for some reason I feel like Pittsburgh had already righted the ship by the time the deadline hit. Then they added a bit more. Their big win streak (and even bigger "unbeaten" streak -- a loss is not a loss if it's in OT :rolleyes: ) was just three games old at the deadline. Prior to that, they had spent almost 20 games playing .500 hockey after their big losing streak. They changed coaches about six games before the deadline and then traded Whitney for Kunitz about three games before the deadline. At the deadline, they got Guerin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I still can't believe that adding the hair puller Kunitz was actually a spark for that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I still can't believe that adding the hair puller Kunitz was actually a spark for that team. I'd say adding Kunitz and Guerin to the top six and taking Satan out was the big spark. A change in play style (from the coach) probably didn't hurt, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I still can't believe that adding the hair puller Kunitz was actually a spark for that team. I think it was much more a matter of getting Fleury and Gonchar back and looking sharp. I had never had a very high opinion of Gonchar, but to his credit, with him back they looked like a totally different team. also firing Therien helped.....this was the guy with Crosby, Malone, Malkin, Staal etc. who trapped in the playoffs last year because he had no confidence in his blueline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 I think it was much more a matter of getting Fleury and Gonchar back and looking sharp. Oh yeah, that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yeah, I realize all that. I'm just bugged by the fact that the hair puller is now on the cup twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 This thread title should read " How is Myers NOT going to make the team, with the current Dmen that we have". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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