nfreeman Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I was sort of assuming that we were going to let him play out his contract and walk, but he did get the A today. If Tallinder or Lydman were to be traded, I think we'd want to extend Spacek. Otherwise, we'd be in danger of losing both him and Teppo after this year, along with whichever of Tallinder or Lydman is traded. At this point, I think I'd like to trade Tallinder (ideally in a package with Max for a tough veteran forward who can score) and extend Spacek. That would bring Weber up this year and give us Spacek, Rivet, Lydman, Weber, Sekera and Teppo this year, with the only possible turnover for next year being Teppo (which is far from certain to happen, btw). Possible? Likely? NFW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I'd have to assume he will. Once Weber joins the big club, only Chris Butler is close to be the next player up. TJ Brennan is years away and who knows how far Dennis Persson or Tyler Myers are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 If all those things play out (i.e. the trade with max/tallinder) then it would be ideal if we created as little unrest as possible on the defense. Extend Spacek until you forecast that our young blue liners will be ready. Unless we plan on being players in the UFA market next off-season to pick up another avail dman. We all know how likely that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frisky Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I think they would extend him unless another team offers him more. I'm not sure they will extend him before the end of the season. Since he's older I'm not sure which way he could go. I'd like to see him stay especially cause he gives good interviews :P . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Let's hope the team signs Spacek to a new contract. Also let's hope he doesn't ask for the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I would expect next year's defense to look like this; 1) Rivet 2) Lydman 3) Sekera 4) Weber 5) Butler 6) Veteran Stay at home guy 7) Paetsch Therefore, No Spacek or Tallinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I was sort of assuming that we were going to let him play out his contract and walk, but he did get the A today. If Tallinder or Lydman were to be traded, I think we'd want to extend Spacek. Otherwise, we'd be in danger of losing both him and Teppo after this year, along with whichever of Tallinder or Lydman is traded. At this point, I think I'd like to trade Tallinder (ideally in a package with Max for a tough veteran forward who can score) and extend Spacek. That would bring Weber up this year and give us Spacek, Rivet, Lydman, Weber, Sekera and Teppo this year, with the only possible turnover for next year being Teppo (which is far from certain to happen, btw). Possible? Likely? NFW? Yes and yes to both above. I do like the idea of the package and I agree as many have said a change of scenary for Max is overdue and unfortunately Tallinder has now fallen into that category for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 I would expect next year's defense to look like this; 1) Rivet 2) Lydman 3) Sekera 4) Weber 5) Butler 6) Veteran Stay at home guy Spacek 7) Paetsch Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 It will likely depend on three things: 1) If DR can work out what he considers an acceptable trade that included Hank or Toni. 2) How far along Butler is. 3) If Teppo is ready to retire - in either his own or the team's opinion. Weber should definitely be ready to come up. If neither #1 or #3 happens, and Butler is ready, then they may do to Butler next year what they are doing to Weber this year (at least #7 in the pecking order, but playing in the minors because of contracts and/or not wanting to waste him as a #7 in the press box) and Spacek will be gone. If Butler isn't ready and either #1 or #3 happens, then Spacek may be extended. If both #1 and #3 happen, then he might get extended even with Butler coming up (in other words, Spacek would fill the slot that TW has marked "Veteran stay at home guy".) In other words, it's too soon to say because there are a lot of if's that need to play out this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdaddy Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 What's potentially available next year. He's certainly valuable but at what cost? Where's Nathan at? Let's pick this up in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sloth Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 What's potentially available next year. He's certainly valuable but at what cost? Where's Nathan at? Let's pick this up in February. I don't know what Nathan's contract is, but he shouldn't, imo, be a Sabre next year. I still like having Tallinder and Lydman. Next year's D should consist of Rivet, Spacek, Lydman, Sekara, Tallinder, and Weber. Bring in Butler when needed. I think a veteran defenseman should be brought, during the offseason, in if Numminen is gone. That'd give us 8 defenseman. Come on guys, you know the one to depart should be Nathan. Unless management were able to work out a trade or deal that brings in another defenseman along the lines of Rivet, the Sabres need to keep everyone. The exception being Nathan. The guy had his chance and I hate it when he has to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macdaddy Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 25 years old and a plus 3 last year with significant amount of games. Don't write him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 25 years old and a plus 3 last year with significant amount of games. Don't write him off. Agreed. He is very good in his role, as the no.7. All these other guys that keep getting mentioned - Butler, Weber, etc., - would be best served by staying in the AHL until they are top-6 guys. They should develop much faster and better if they are on the ice, learning how to play in and react to different game situations, instead of sitting in the press box watching other guys play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sloth Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 I, to a certain degree, stand corrected. Weber just impressed me when he got to play in the latter portion of the 07/08 season. Wasn't he a plus 8 or 10 in that short stint in the NHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Spacho, Spacho man...I want to be a Spacho man!! Spacho, Spacho man...I wanna be a Spacho!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sloth Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Spacho, Spacho man...I want to be a Spacho man!! Spacho, Spacho man...I wanna be a Spacho!!! Spiderman fan, eh? Or are you a Simpson's fan? Spiderpig, spiderpig.... (Simpsons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 I, to a certain degree, stand corrected. Weber just impressed me when he got to play in the latter portion of the 07/08 season. Wasn't he a plus 8 or 10 in that short stint in the NHL? I think we're pretty close on Weber's assessment and impact. I really like what Weber brought over the last 16 games, and think he will be a very good defensemen very soon. I just think that Paetsch is fine where he is, and unless he regresses there's no need to get rid of him. He's a role player, understands his job and does it pretty well, IMO. Weber will be up here before long, and will push someone like Tallinder or Lydman out of a job, IMO. EDIT: Ooops, Weber played 16 games and was a +12. Spiderman fan, eh? Or are you a Simpson's fan? Spiderpig, spiderpig.... (Simpsons) I think he's playing off the Village People's "Macho, Macho Man" but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnychemo Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Although I hate myself for knowing this, he's playing off "Macho Man" by the Village People. Thanks. I just threw up in my mouth a little thinking about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 I think he's playing off the Village People's "Macho, Macho Man" but I could be wrong. Although I hate myself for knowing this, he's playing off "Macho Man" by the Village People.Thanks. I just threw up in my mouth a little thinking about that. You guys should go visit the YMCA on your day off. :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 You guys should go visit the YMCA on your day off. :wub: Hey, I resemble that remark... :chris: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 nathan paetsch earned lifelong respect from me in 05-06 playoff run. game 7 vs carolina, just his second ever NHL game, he was probably the sabres best player on the ice. he was gunning shots at the net every chance he got. clearly wanted to make an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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