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Well, it is a somewhat perplexing subject, fan based payments to players as opposed to from the owner. I won't discount it completely, no matter how small the percentage is that it's the organization. It's entertaining, hell, more than the games recently lol. With that being said...………. I'll allow it ?

In all fairness, the initial OP doesn't look to ownership for additional salary. I believe it was a fan base bonus incentive program.

I'm inclined to give you the benefit of the keystroke mistakes for the forum member masses. But, given your subject matter combined with what you would attempt to brush of as a "Typo/Autocorrect", I'm not buying it. There is always a method to the madness as the ole' saying goes. You point out some industry specific hazards, and are willing to engage conversation even though the popcorn machine is struggling to keep up. I would surmise your either industry connected or one hell of a troller (at least to this forum, which is a Sabres fan base forum who's members are overwhelmingly disgruntled at the current set of circumstances). If it's the former, your more than welcome to your anonymity, if it's the latter you've definitely created entertainment where the current local NHL organization has failed. In either case, my hats off to you for distracting "Us Fans" from the bleakness of what we've had to deal with in this market for more than a number of seasons now.

I get it from your post below. You eluded to being a player by the bolded word you utilized in the statement below. If I'm mistaken, my humblest of apologies.

I do have a question for you, off topic for a moment. I don't know at what level you achieved, AHL, NHL, but this is a rare moment for us fans in general to ask direct questions, so I hope you don't mind. When you as a player join an organization, either via trade or signing or drafted, do you look at the strategies attempting to be implemented by the existing management team? And if so, do you guys talk amongst yourselves about the outcome of those strategies? If you respond, thank you in advance.

I don't disagree with this. But isn't that an employee/employer situation? All the back and forth between players and fans on this conversation put aside for a moment, think back to when you started playing hockey as a young'in, when your love for the game was what it was all about. You may be a player, but your still a fan, just like the rest of us. As a fan I may get angry at a players on ice mistakes, it's the passion within all of us, but I spend a portion of what I earn on the Sabres organization as it is. You have to remember, fans budgets aren't limitless. As for your statements on the dangers, the medical or life after hockey benefits, that is between employee and employer.

I risk my life everyday I go in to work. At a facility who's product touches an overwhelming portion of the nation's population, especially safe drinking water supplies. I'd like fans across the nation of safe drinking water to start an incentive cash bonus program for my job performance.

Off with his head! Off with his head I say!!! ?

I'd just stay home then, watch what games i wish from my home. I mean, if I boo at my TV, in my own house, is some burly men in black going to come remove me from my home? And if I refuse to buy anymore merchandise as a show of my disdain for poor product performance, is my bank account going to be garnished?

I don't mean to chuckle about this, bit imagine this for a moment, your a traveling construction hand, you travel the country going job to job for 25 yrs of your adult life, seeing home once, maybe twice a year, for a week or less at a time. While your up on steel I beams at 16 to 20 stories up in the air, going about your work others not 9nly on the job, in your specific trade, but right on your own crew your working directly with call you a piece of ***** daily, tell others you can't get the job done, say terrible things on the job, and this goes on job after job, year after year, yet you show up on the jobs, knowing full well you are going to deal with this. And these aren't people who come to watch you 2 to 4 times a week, nope, they are there, everyday, 12, 14, 16 hours a day, yet you continue to go to work, day after day, year after year. Learning to cope isn't really the appropriate term. It's staying focused on your goals, harnessing what your will power to block out the noise around you and push forward. Human behavior is largely a product of the environment around it, it's up to the individual to push through adversity the same as if they celebrate when successful. Some call it thick skinned, others say its shaking it off, and still others call it something else, but in the end it is the determination within an individual to allow at to eat at them or to ignore it and stay focused. And believe me, at 20 stories up in the air, you can't afford the luxury of what others are saying. Stay focused!

Job security at the AHL level is interesting. But once again I'd point to a couple of items here. 1. What are the goals of the individual AHL teams? Since this is a Sabres forum, from a fan perspective I believe there are 2 goals. #1 provide an environment where success as a team is front and center. #2 development of players games to achieve a competitive environment. As for mental health, yes, I agree with you. Addressing it is long over due. Many players come in from all over the world, that time from home can lead to many anxieties I agree. Stop trashing players names. This is a tough one, in male sports specifically. Not merely as fans either. When I played organized sports in my younger years there was trashing, not only from opposing players but from their friends/parents. It's an aggressive sport, it brings out the savage in many, but I do understand what you are saying. All I can offer is this, the mentally tough push through the trash talk and get busy getting to work. I work in a hard core trash talking environment, where at 50 yrs old, I'm still called young'in and "hey kiddo". My job doesn't suffer from it, I take it in stride.

You see what I mean, Jack has the puck, and no urgency to maintain control. Just loses it. And it happens over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

I don't think it's either, to be honest. These players have the talent. But their motors are just zero. I watched multiple times as the Jets players just straight out beat our boys to pucks, and not due to speed, but due to lack of legs moving. If that is the strategy, it's not working lol.

Watch the replay of this game, the Arizona game and the Knights game. You'll all notice something. The lack of desperation on the puck battles. Our boys don't hound the puck, it's our Achilles heel to be sure.

He seems to have that sharp cut skating, I like it. Hard to get a read on his stick work and shooting skill since we spend a majority of games defending.

Meh, same ole' same ole'. Although I know it's not right, but...……………….trade everyone but Eichel, Dahlin, Jokiharu and Sabretooth.

I like Rossi to.

Moral Victories!!!!!! ?

I pointed out only what I watched on video's mind you, but there's nearly 4 hours of it all over the net, you can look them up. Not that it will matter much since our odds of getting to the pick to get him, but If I'm picking 1 or 2, I want a complete 200 ft game. Just my take is all.

We have a guy like that, but we traded him for 2 Ville Leino's and a guy who can't stop a beachball ?

You and Ink, are just freaking awesome ?

Ink, your on a roll, my whole family is in stitches, and all agree with you lol *****..... ing epic thread tonight, thank you, just thank you......

But what about the bobblehead dolls? They look much better then the tank year ones ? , no?

Some of them are from his team sight, some from others. Just take the time to roll through them. Trust me, I wouldn't say it unless I did.