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It's moments like this that irritate me about analytics. Analytics are statistics and they suggest trends. They do not define them. At best this person could post this and say Eichel might cool off. The implication in the above statement is that the poster has all the facts. However, let's say in any given a year a change in a piece of equipment, a rule change on goaltending equipment, or some other variable gets introduced. Until the models catch up to the new variable, either directly by it being incorporated or indirectly due to the metrics being used to determine the model, the model will show outliers. And yes.. Eichel is in a zone. There's no doubt. He's 10% shooter over his career, which, by most accounts, has not seen him at the top of his game. So.. perhaps he's a better shooter than we ever knew? Perhaps not. For now I am going to just enjoy watching Eichel play.. because he currently is playing as one of the best in the game.

Done traveling for quite some time now. IT will be good to sit down and watch a game. Caught parts of the Preds game from the hotel.

He did and I think his perseverance should be commended. But as a someone who has regularly chastised Matthews for being all about himself I was surprised you are somewhat defending Bogosian here. Being sat can piss you off, but the response should not be to go public with a trade request. Bogosian's best response on being healthy scratched should be: "We have a lot of very talented defenders and the competition level is high. I've been at a slight disadvantage having gone through surgery and recovering the early part of the season. The guys around me have done a great job and while I have worked really hard to get back into the game there's another level I can get to. There's another level that I need to get to. Clearly the coaching staff feels I can be better and that's my goal now." Unless there is some seriously political crap going on (there doesn't appear to be any) then any other response is Bogosian playing the ultimate "It's all about me card". I would also think Eichel's response was genuine, but he's also calling out Bogosian in a way. He's letting him know that his trade request is impacting the team while still acknowledging that Bogosian has to have his own self-interests in mind. It's a way of saying, "I get that you need ice time for your next contract, but openly talking about it is going to have an impact on the locker room." Really curious how Bogosian was received the next day.

I would go with you being an old curmudgeon. And for what it's worth.. when Eichel scores people post a cat riding a unicorn with a rainbow... so.. I guess it's okay.

I saw that. It's those little things that are so awesome to catch.

It's an odd situation all the way around. Who gains from making it public? A public declaration reduces trade value. A player of Bogosian's status and contract already have a bad trade value, this isn't going to help. To move him the Sabres need to trade him for next to nothing to a team that has space to take him or they have to be willing to take someone else's bad contract. Clearly he didn't care about it being leaked given his response.

I love this because I feel the exact opposite and I think that demonstrates how different everyone is... i found that whole block of information interesting. life is good.

While the Sabres marketing teams don’t always nail it... I have to give them credit for the t-shirts on the seats. It looks amazing. That was a brilliant idea. Go Buffalo..

Until they win, they haven’t. I get your point. My point is that this team is right in the mix of the division and is not as bad as everyone is saying. By the way, 6 wins in 20+ games and still being in this position in the standings also says something doesn’t it?

I think Spectrum has a stand alone streaming package, it's not in that. But if you have Spectrum cable, you can use their app instead of a cable box. In many instances its okay, but for sports, it's lacking. Especially when things are moving fast, like a puck or football. It had been confirmed in the past that FUBO had Sabres games, but they've made so many changes that I am just not sure anymore.

It's like... a video game Deadpool... I am sure the schtick will be similar. I'm also sure I will watch it.

I would reach out to the companies directly. I honestly don't know if you'd get Sabres games. The other thing to consider when streaming is the quality of the stream. For the past few weeks I have trialed using Spectrum's app to stream Sabres games (in the hopes of giving up the cable box) but their stream compression is so crappy that it's hard to follow the puck around the ice (it's also hard to follow passes in football). I'm not super surprised given that Spectrum wants people to keep their crappy cable boxes. I am ready to drop their TV in favor of someone else, but I need to get Sabres games. So, if you do find out.. let me know.

Yea.. this team sucks.. I wish the coach and GM had a clue about how to make them competitive. The team is in a playoff position while everyone knows they still need another player. They are not Toronto who have too much money tied up in 3 players. They are not Tampa who have a ton of talent to sign and players with NMC/NTC littering their roster. I'd be really mad if the season finished like this and the team made the playoffs with this crappy coach and GM. ?

The real question is.. does the color of the jersey help hide the ball on handoffs to give Allen an advantage or is it just skin color that could do that? If you don't know what I am referring to: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28227397/49ers-suspend-radio-analyst-tim-ryan-lamar-jackson-comments Which, honestly, I don't think are that bad and have merit. Much like the questions of black stick tape helping hide the puck longer than white stick tape to give an advantage to shooters and so on -> https://www.nhl.com/coyotes/news/black-tape-vs-white-tape/c-428012 Anyway..

I understand the approach you have here. However, in the context of what the NHL (and at least USA Hockey) are trying to remove from the game, it's exactly hits like these. In today's game you just can't target the head and for Cernak it appears that's what he's doing. What's worse is that he just was suspended for targeting the head so it'll draw even more scrutiny. Frankly the hit is unnecessary if the attempt is to separate the player from the puck. If the intent is to hit the opposing player as hard as you can, then sure, it has merit. The game is not about that anymore however. Yeah, if you are Evander Kane you have a player who is known for cheap shots trying to line you up. You are exposed to the boards so you've gotta expect his hit. I think Kane tried to brace for it and Gudas goes a little lower so Kane bounces of the shoulder (slightly) a little and ends up hitting Gudas in the head. I can't fault Kane here, it's just an unfortunate sequence and in my opinion speaks to what freejame said above. Sometimes shots to the head will happen. I don't think he deserved a game on that and certainly not a fine or a suspension. I can understand why it was called a game misconduct in the normal course of play, but in slow motion i think it looks different. The biggest problem for Gudas is that he locks legs with Kane and that is what keeps him from staying upright enough to avoid an awkward impact with the boards.

I think what the public at large accepts is one thing. What the public at large finds time to care about and tacitly accepts is something else. Sadly, when it comes to politics, I think the latter is the most common scenario.

Franzen speaks up about abusive behavior of Mike Babcock from five years ago. This is evidence of Babcock being an asshat and bullying. You call him a snowflake and that you are not interested in hearing his whining over something from five years ago. I think this clearly demonstrates that you have a tolerance level for people who act like this. Because you didn't talk about Babcock, you spoke out against Franzen. Your next response speaks to it being five years ago and that people change. This seems to indicate that you want to put a statute of limitations on these things. Which may be possible because people do change. However, I argue that with Babcock is being accused of the same behavior more recently than five years ago. Chelios has spoken out against him, Marner, we've seen the players stepping forward. There's no evidence of Babcock changing, just that he's been an asshat and a bully for quite some time. So, is Franzen still the problem here for you? Is Franzen still a snowflake? Would that mean Chris Chelios is a snowflake as well? How about the other players who are speaking up? Are they snowflakes? I wouldn't want to insinuate how you feel about them. So, rather than hazard a guess based the words you use to state your position I will just ask point blank.

Well, this particular thread is about Democratic presidential hopefuls and not Donald Trump. There is no need to discuss him in this thread. Trump has a thread. It'll serve everyone better to talk about the strengths and weaknesses of the Democratic candidates without bringing Trump into the conversation for anything more than "can they beat Trump in an election" question. Which is really still constraining the discussion to the candidates strengths/weaknesses. Going off on Trump's record is not relevant in this thread.

I didn't attempt to do anything other than to offer perspective on why someone might wait five years, which was directly responding to your point. I addressed your use of the term snowflake, which I felt did not apply. It was perfectly relevant. I did not attempt to bastardize your response. Your response stands and I refuted it with reason. Which, Eleven found enough value in to comment that it provided perspective for him. You then quoted Eleven in your below response that he had made to me. I would think that indicates it provides some value and is not a bastardization of your response. It's unfortunate that your response to someone refuting your points is to attempt to label them as unscrupulous. Your label does not bother me as it could not be further from the truth. Allow me to offer this. People can evolve, it does not mean they do. Said grown man was accused of the same behavior more recently. The information being provided by Franzen is an indication that Babcock did not just recently start engaging in this behavior but rather has an established history of behaving this way. Perhaps it does not mean anything to you, that's fine. It meant something Franzen, and that's what matters. Franzen lived with it, not you. Either way, it merely adds more evidence to the fact that Babcock is a certain kind of person, he was that kind of person then, he's that kind of person now. He may not be that person in the future. He might evolve, but that hasn't happened yet and at this particular intersection of his behavior and the league standard, it means that he's unemployed.

This is why I wish there was an ignore thread option. I don't ignore people, but there have been plenty of threads I wish I could ignore. ?

You love the term snowflake. You don't even know what was said. Are you advocating that people should be allowed to speak to others in any way they see fit? The issue at hand is that it appears that some of these "old school" hockey executives have a rather unprofessional method of dealing with players. It creates an atmosphere they do not want to work in. This, in any other corporate culture, would be unacceptable, and as such, it should be unacceptable in the NHL as well. Why five years later? Well, I think it speaks to the level of concern players have when it comes to speaking up about these matters. Perhaps they are concerned that "rocking the boat" will lead to them being blackballed by these "old school" hockey executives. This would then cost them millions of dollars and remove them from playing the game they love. There's no need to treat other people like garbage. No one has to accept it. Your insinuation is that you are allowed to say whatever you want to say and that if someone else doesn't like it, well, that's too bad. Well, if the extent of your interaction with that person is limited to that single engagement, then so be it. It's easy enough to chalk it up to you being an asshat and move on. If, however, it's an ongoing interaction, especially when the two have to work together, then it's very much a different story. You are still an asshat, but the other shouldn't have to leave their job just because you are the asshat. Johnny might be a snowflake if he can't handle walking his hockey equipment to the car after practice and he gets picked up at the door. Johnny is not a snowflake if his boss engages in verbal or physical harassment.

I think the "we" part of your post is what should be examined. There are those in this thread that are finding value in the discussion. So "they" are getting value. There are those, such as yourself, who apparently are not finding value. So "you" are not getting value. I'm not sure the "we" can be used to define everyone here. What you seem to be ignoring is the point that you don't need to read the thread and certainly don't need to crap in it. If you can ignore what others have said about your insertion into the "discussion" then you are capable of ignoring the thread.

Would definitely like to see the uptempo play I've been seeing from the team lately. Let's get a W.

As I ponder it, the only thing I can think of is a waiver situation. I am sure Lazar has to clear, I don't know about Dea. Could it be that they don't want to send them back down and risk losing them until they have their forward depth back?

Where does he take no responsibility for it? He hired a guy to do a job and the guy didn't do it. He trusted a GM to not be a dick and the GM was a dick. I can fault Berglund for hiring his agent in the first place? It's easy enough to say after the fact that I guess Berglund should have followed up with his agent, but I can think of plenty of times in my life where I trusted someone who was hired to do their job was going to do their job. I'm not a micro-manager by any stretch. Players trust in their agents and sometimes that does not pan out, but to say that the player is at fault for doing so is not somewhere I can get to. I agree with you. There is a distinction to be made somewhere between a temporary mental health issue that can be brought upon by situational stressors and the mental health issues others suffer brought about by other more deeply seeded means. Where that line would be drawn is beyond me. I certainly can't see why he'd not want to come to work every day. One could argue that he should have made the best of it, but I would counter that, in his eyes, he did make the best of it. He chose to walk away from a lot of money. That's something a lot of people would have a hard time doing. I think it speaks to the level that the situation impacted him and certainly how much it worked against what he found important in life. We can certainly see how much the situation still bothers him and how much he really doesn't want to discuss it anymore. I don't blame him. Every time i think of that jackhole boss that lied to me about a raise I get angry. Not so much at him but at the capacity for people to act in such a way that intentionally screws with someone else's life.