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I did. And then you wrote: IMHO, Matt did not say that at all. He said the republican party has a large and very vocal view on those issues that he doesn't agree with. I'm sure he realizes that gays in the Republican party aren't anti-gay or the women are anti-women, etc. But you are delusional if you think that there isn't a large faction on the right that doesn't want to confer the right for gays to marry, for woman to be able to exercize their right to choose, that doesn't want to limit public healthcare, and that doesn't want to have prayer back in the classroom. Christ, there have been calls from some in the party to have America declared a "Christian" nation. I'm just saying that we can have honest discussion of issues without accusing the other side of painting everyone with the same brush, getting all defensive about it, and ruining the opportunity for finding middle grounds on the issues we all feel are important.

This is valid I think. I've heard from people at the game that on the sidelines there were times the other night when Fitz and Thigpen were looking at photos, etc as a QB group and Young was just sitting alone on the bench choosing not to join them. Of course we are viewing that without context but it is interesting that some were saying he looked withdrawn. This fits what fans and media in both of his prior cities have observed as well. GO BILLS!!!

That's what you got out of Matt's post? Defensive much? There is little hope for honest public discourse when we are too entrenched.

I'm not quite sure what you mean about people needing to offer an explanation for something they have no control over. It's fair to say the vast majority of us want Doan even at the inflated price of the cost to get him to a place like Buffalo. Others have offered very reasonable ideas as to why that number is too high especially relative to his age and the cap, etc. Anyway, the decision rests entirely with Doan, regardless of what the Sabres offer and no matter how enticing the pitch. It doesn't matter to me what reasons he has to not take our deal. While it would certainly be disappointing to me that he chose to play elsewhere, I would in no way hold that against the Sabres, let alone think that makes them a cesspool. I don't see anyone looking to excuse the Sabres. I think you are looking for an excuse to take them to the woodshed if Doan doesn't agree to come here, in spite of their best efforts to sign him. Why is that? Sometimes best effort is all that can be expected. The Sabres are certainly doing that in this case as evidenced by their exceedingly generous offer. If they didn't make the effort then yeah, I could question their resolve to get better. I simply can't in the Doan case. GO SABRES!!!

Just to see if I have this straight, if Doan doesn't take the Sabres' offer he's an idiot and the Sabres' organization is a cesspool. Got it. GO SABRES!!!

Only the most blinded Vince Young hopefuls would have predicted any type of QB controversy. For better or worse, Fitz is the undisputed starter and he has been since two games into the 2010 season. Young wasn't going to change that no matter how well he played. GO BILLS!!!

That is a seriously f*cked up provision. I can perhaps understand being paid if injured or waived, but if a player decides on his own free will to retire he is the one who voids the deal. No way a team should be on the hook for that. GO SABRES!!!

And if he doesn't sign with us? GO SABRES!!!

Your meltdown in the event Doan chooses not to sign with the Sabres will be EPIC in its proportions. This posturing confirms those suspicions. Doan signing or not wouldn't compel me to leave this BB one way or the other. You'll just have to further suffer my presence. As to the bolded text, can you explain how anyone thinking that Doan may choose to play for some other team is just "excusing away more Sabres failure?" GO SABRES!!!

Actually, wjag, bullets are very inexpensive. They're not all created equally to be sure, but walk into Walmart or go online and see how much they are. You'll be surprised. Heck, lots of people make their own and save even more.

There are several things that can "screw this up." I get the impression you are girding for an unprecedented Regier-ripping frenzy in the event he doesn't sign with us. Saying there is "no reason Shane Doan can't or shouldn't be a Buffalo Sabre in 3 weeks" is just not looking at the situation realistically. It could be anything from A to Z when it comes to not playing in Buffalo. I'll start with A: he just doesn't want to play for the Sabres. Period. GO SABRES!!!

Doan it make my brown eyes Doan it make my brown eyes Doan it make my brown eyes... Blue GO SABRES!!!

Literally ludicrous. Nice alliteratin though. GO SABRES!!!

The decaffeinated Eleven would know I was just making a joke about LR wanting to get rid of Drury and Briere. The worry is, have you lost your sense of humor just because we traded Roy? GO SABRES!!!

I'm really starting to worry about you, eleven. But thanks anyway. GO SABRES!!!

I think it means that Lindy is a xenophobe and couldn't WAIT to get rid of Drury and Briere. We need a team full of Albertans! GO SABRES!!!

Hey, we have the "Breast" thread below for talk like that. GO SABRES!!!

That is a Roger Ailes invention. He's also the guy that invented intentionally changing a disgraced Republican politician's party affiliation to (D) whenever news of that disgraced politician was scrolled at the bottom of the FoxNews screen. He's big on subliminal suggestion I guess. In addition to other things.

No doubt! Each name you mention has got to be in the discussion. They can all muck in the corners or go on an end to end rush as far as I'm concerned. Chops are chops. And then there's Andre Segovia.

A discussion about great guitarists? Best ever? Or one of the best? Cannot be qualified. Ever. We often confuse innovative with better. Jimi Hendrix was innovative as well as being a great guitarist, obviously. But IMHO, he was only the second best guitarist the Isley Brothers ever had. I could go on but for my money the greatest guitarist I ever saw was Andre Segovia. I still don't know how he was able to do what he did with those short, fat sausages he had for fingers. Amazing. And I think he would have played Hendrix far, far easier than Hendrix would have played Segovia.

The economy? What's wrong with the economy? The stock market, along with corporate profits, are nearly at an all time high. I'm being rhetorical.

On the contrary, it says you are willing to pay what it takes to land a player you highly value to get him to play in one of the league's lower-profile cities. Buffalo has to overpay in order to compete with other markets. That's a fact. And it says a lot when they publicly display their intent to do so. GO BILLS!!!

25 prosecutions in the 70s? 25? In elections 40 years ago? Rampant, I tell you. Rampant! Hmm. The term numerous strikes me. In the preceding paragraph he was able to provide a definate number, 25. Is numerous more or less than 25? I'm glad he was able to cite this case. Another example of a problem with absentee ballots. But the system got it right and Stinson's victory was overturned so voter fraud did nothing to secure a bogus outcome. I'm curious as to why it took the great politicians of PA 19 years implement changes to prevent this from happening again in a state senate election. I would think that Hans von Spakovsky, as a senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation, would be able to provide a much more convincing case if he were able to find one. I was hoping he could cite an example of a presidential election in PA. But if that's all he can come up with as a Heritage Foundation fellow, there's just not much there, there. I wonder what the Heritage Foundation's position is on the state of Texas seeking to repeal the Voting Rights Act of 1965. From PA to Texas, from Ohio to Florida, there is a systematic effort being conducted to hinder as large a voting block as possible. There's a Woody Guthrie song in there somewhere.

Ques que c'est, "Godwin?"

Oh for crying out fu*king loud, WHEN DID VOTER FRAUD EVER COME CLOSE TO SWINGING THE STATE OF PA ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? Clearly and without any proof to the contrary, this was a solution looking for a problem. That is if you think for one minute that the problem is and always has been voter fraud in PA. There was a problem that needed fixing in PA all right. And Turzai summed it up nicely.