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I think the Lemieux reminder is apt. From the longer stick to his longer skating stride and ability to hit top speed in two strides, he is similar in that regard. And he's fast as well. GO SABRES!!!

I think Roy's relationship with Grigorenko naturally fuels that speculation about RoR. GO SABRES!!!

Just to be clear, I'm not advocating we trade anybody. I'm simply answering the question posed by the OP. GO SABRES!!!

Perhaps the single-most important aspect of him as a hockey player. I think the ability to make those around you better is where the definition of greatness begins. GO SABRES!!!

Jim Otto.

Attainable and sustainable. GO SABRES!!!

I'm guessing Grigorenko and Zadorov. Most likely in as a package. GO SABRES!!!

This is true and it reflects what the former coach at BU said the other day. If you're at a stage where you're gonna be riding buses in the minors then go back to school. If you're NHL ready, there's not much to be gained by going back. To say Eichel is ready is an understatement. He'll arrive one of the strongest guys on the team at 18, so from a physical standpoint, he can take the pounding. GO SABRES!!!

I'd only be momentarily disappointed in having to wait, but I'd also be happy for the kid if that's what he decided to do. Must be nice to be that young and have those kind of options. Not that it means too much, but I found it interesting that they voted to give him an "A" on his sweater for next year. http://thehockeywriters.com/is-jack-eichel-returning-to-bu/ GO SABRES!!!

Interesting take, here. And I agree with your premise; more teams will be encouraged to "tank" as a result of expanding the lottery. It's all about big market teams (dollars) getting a shot at more elite talent. Murray has always been right that the worst team should get the #1 overall pick and so on down the order of finish. GO SABRES!!!

Murray isn't dancing for the NHL, either. He's beholding to one man, Pegula; the person he directly reports to. I get the impression Pegula couldn't care less about Murray's demeanor as long as he produces a winning team. GO SABRES!!!

You aren't owed anything by any team you spend money on. Period. Buying a ticket is nothing more than obtaining a license to occupy that seat. Buying merchandise is nothing more than obtaining stuff in exchange for legal tender. You think you have the power to demand that Murray dance like a monkey as you stated above? You're the one spending money on an inferior product. Who's dancing for whom? GO SABRES!!!

Right. Like you're just so much smarter than all the other fans out there. GO SABRES!!!

Same here. Anyone who thinks that because they spend money on tickets, merchandise, etc., that they are OWED something by the team is delusional. GO SABRES!!!

That's your paranoia kicking in. Nothing about any post in this thread serves to make one "look better." I'm not sure what that means but I can understand the need one might have for that kind of thing. There's just no measure of ego satisfaction to be gained here. Unless, of course, one wishes to boast about being right about something patently obvious. Like a media narrative that dovetails one's own particular take on a press conference, for instance. You yourself admitted that you've never previously slammed Murray so yeah, I guess your agenda started after the press conference last night and continues today. I think your body of work in this thread supports your anti-Murray message perfectly. GO SABRES!!!

I didn't misinterpret, I ignored it. Big difference. I don't think you're in a position to lecture anyone about misinterpretation given your butchery of Murray's comments. You chose to ignore any positive thing he had to say last night. Sucks, doesn't it? That's the hypocrite box you put yourself in earlier today. Castigating was a poor choice of words for which I apologized for. That's not making schit up, either. At worst, it's speaking out of turn. Get over it. So far today, I've managed to perfectly characterize your disdain for Tim Murray. I've misinterpreted nothing. You've been pretty clear and consistent in your negative attack on Murray since this thread opened. Agendas have to start somewhere so I find your defense of "I never attacked him before," utterly lacking. You purposely chose to ignore any positive statements he made because those statements don't support your overall theory that Murray was a babbling idiot that caused you to reconsider his abilities as a GM. Sorry, but when you purposely parse the language like that, it reeks of an agenda. No attempt to balance his statements, putting more weight into spontaneous remarks, and then boasting about being right about the media's narrative (even though it was obvious what is was going to be), all point to the same thing. Carry-on, indeed. You've seen fit to do just that this entire thread. GO SABRES!!!

Is taking time to listen anything like hearing only what you want to hear? GO SABRES!!! Ah, the old, "reading comprehension" gambit. What's next, calling me "dude?" GO SABRES!!!

That's a bad thing? Is it because you don't value his statements born out of reflective consideration vs. spontaneous, off the cuff remarks that reveal his total inability to be a GM? GO SABRES!!!

Hey, this crap can be hard to keep up with, so no worries here. You are correct that we need to judge Murray moving forward and these players were taken on his watch. I'll nitpick Lemieux though, as he was traded to acquire assets. I have no problem with that. GO SABRES!!!

You have a firm grasp of the obvious. Congrats! GO SABRES!!! No, overstated in that I made a poor choice of words. I assure you, nothing about my opinion of your views on Murray is from thin air. You have provided ample material to remove any doubt. GO SABRES!!!

They were all selected before Murray got here. GO SABRES!!! Fair enough. Perhaps that was overstated on my end in this instance. But criticizing Murray is part and parcel to your agenda to convince everyone that he's out of his depth. GO SABRES!!!

Sorry, Liger. All that matter are the remarks Murray made last night in the heat of the moment. Any quotes born out of careful consideration and/or reflection are no indication of his ability to successfully manage this franchise and oversee the rebuild. We should all put more weight into Murray's off the cuff remarks. GO SABRES!!! That's it's nothing more than an agenda-driven narrative by a media that would rather sensationalize than provide full context to a story. That style seems to appeal to a certain segment of consumers. I know you can relate to that aspect of this. I like how you choose to further castigate Murray after he had a chance to reflect on things from last night. But I'm not surprised given your belief that spontaneous, off the cuff remarks are more indicative of his ability to do his job. It's also indicative of my earlier assertion that there is nothing Murray can say to sway you from your predetermined viewpoint. GO SABRES!!!

I rest my case. GO SABRES!!!

I think that's unfair to the positive things he had to say. Like you said, it's about the narrative and those in the agenda-driven media that seek to frame that narrative for whatever agenda they are driving. I just don't agree that the sum total of all that Tim Murray is and hopes to be as a GM and architect of this rebuilding project, is contained in a few remarks in a 10 minute presser he had disdain for having to participate in in the first place. If the media is gonna parse his language, they should do a more honest job of retaining and presenting the entire context of his remarks. GO SABRES!!!

If that's all you're saying then this has all been just a vociferous defense of that statement and nothing more? You'll have to pardon me if that wasn't crystal clear through all that verbiage. I'll remain skeptical about you not caring about what he says if what he does ends up helping us win. The entire tear down and rebuild is designed to do just that, but that hasn't stopped you from calling him out and criticizing what he's been saying anyway. You seem to care very much about what he says and how he says it. I look for you to continue that trend up until we indeed start winning. The phrase "fair weather fan" comes to mind. GO SABRES!!!