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That "best in the league" PP had Peterka and Quinn blowing through the AHL with nearly unprecedented for teens stats. When those 2 moved up, the PP regressed SIGNIFICANTLY. And that's even with adding Kulich to the mix.

"The team sucked tonight, right?"

NHL gonna NHL

Exactly my point...hard to say it's him not being a good PP coach when his other teams have done pretty well.

Not with these players they haven't. But, you knew that. Bob Woods never should've been allowed to leave the building.

This is the best reason to get Conner Ellis in there for a couple of games. If he can be #2 (or even #1), UPL becomes expendable. If not, well, we might have to deal with the three-headed goalie monster for a while.

23-24: 17.9%, 10th best in the league 22-23: 20.6%, 9th best in the league 21-22: 23.5%, best in the league. Appert’s PP was always good in Rochester.

the same struggles have gone back far before any of them were on the team. Try again.

This poor guy is doomed to the goalie warehouse on Genesee St. We keep our Puppa scoopers there too.

I ain't free.

Competition could be the exact thing UPL needs. He’s never had a competent goalie threatening to steal playing time from him. He’s going to have to consistently bring his A game if he want significant playing time.

Many? Ellis and Appert. Neither of which should be coaching an NHL PP.

More like JJP was a 2-way liability and didn't seem very interested in improving that on a team full of 2-way liabilities and plenty of young players coming up with scoring prowess. Preventing 30 goals has the same effect as scoring 30 goals.

Doan was good last night but he did cough the puck up cheaply in his own zone twice in the 3rd. Have to clean that up for sure. But he’s a player and seemingly well liked. Hopefully this kickstarts their season.

How was the Amerks PP under Appert? Seems hard to keep blaming coaches when many different coaches have tried to coach the PP and they all have ended up getting the same results eventually. Especially if we have situations where they have then coached the PP elsewhere (either before or after) and had success at doing so. At some point the players have to take responsibility for their lack of productivity and lack of making anything happen. I mean, I'm pretty sure the coaches are not telling the point players to constantly shoot the puck directly into the oncoming players shinpads like they do so often or to shoot the puck directly into the goalies chest from the slot. Coaches can't force players to make good decisions on the ice, they can only teach them what they "should" be doing and to practice doing it, but the players then have to be able to carry that over into the game and actually execute it properly.

Heading into the game, they were virgins insofar as winning a game...

Has that ever stopped Adams before?

Would be perfectly fine with them trading UPL. Give him and the team both a fresh start. Can't see Adams doing that though. BUT should Kevyn get canned, could see that being one of a new GM's 1st moves.

Is that the bar? What could you get for him right now?

show me.

Disagree to an extent. The PLAYERS understand that stuff. The coaching staff are full on idjits. The reason the players were in non-usual spots was the Otters got a clear and then kept pressure on the Sabres outside the zone but the puck got over to Dahlin and HE will actually carry the puck in when it is there. He carried it in and he and McLeod ended up deep with Thompson and Zucker higher and Benson as the last man back. (He'd passed the puck to Dahlin on a SHORT drop pass to start the entry and then was hanging deep (actually outside outside the zone) and pinched to keep the puck in at the zone. Dahlin came into the zone with speed and they had 4 guys all moving with speed entering the zone because when the drop pass happened they were all near the red line not the opposing team's blue iine.) But THAT entry was completely against what Appert coaches and exactly what teams that are good on the PP do.

Downer is a good thought but not sure you mean personality wise. UPL does seem like a pod/turd. If a team reflects the personality of its goalie, Lyon might just be what they need.

Alex already handled him. Follow the plot.