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Doesn’t have to be with NIL. Terry could’ve offered McKenna 3 million to come to Penn St if he wanted to. Rules have gone out the window in college athletics.

Quite a few do. I saw the Jays play a MLB game in Buffalo. That was fun.

Although, I do want the GM to be using the folks around him to identify players they trust and who would fit the direction (if any) of the team. I want him listening to Ruff and Jarmo (Danforth) and Granato... Appert, meh. I'd rather he listen to the hockey guys than to Pegula. It's what Adams spends to acquire or retain them that gets him into real trouble. Just with Malenstyn as an example. A 2nd to attain a 4W is very high (unless he's a proven veteran and you're renting him for the playoffs because you're a contender). Now, Malenstyn was underwhelming last season, but got deployed as 4W instead of how WSH had used him as a 3W in terms of minutes. (And the Sabres revamped 4th + sloppy defense + goaltending meant he was pretty poor overall.)

Many GMs start out as scouts, or coaching, or both. Adams was mostly business administration prior to becoming GM. Which is why him having no advisors until this season was a curious decision that probably hurt him.

We dont agree... although I find it interesting how you say Buffalo isnt a good place to live, then profess to love it there and its people... Accusing me of not paying attention or otherwise being dumb or ill informed because I believe that with the right atmosphere and culture there will be players who would love living in Buffalo, currently do love it and or would be fine with it during the season is also interesting. Using the Bills as an example attracting the best free agents on the market like Paup, Takeo Spikes, Ted Washington, Sam Adams, Billy Brooks, Quinn Early, etc when we contended in the 90's and the Von Millers, Joey Bosa's etc.. currently to illustrate what FO office competence and winning do to snow and taxes doesn't make me think you are dumb or ill informed because you don't think anyone would ever come here or like it... .I simply just don't agree that we are fatalistically doomed because of our Geography and that there is a path to success... despite the lack of glamour...You don't... ok... hey, its your opinion fair enough.. You don't think any top players would think Buffalo is a worthy destination if we were an up and coming team... with a competent functional FO with a plan... ok, fair enough... I do.. I think there are people who love it in Buffalo... and find it a great place to make a home... others will not... some folks will find LA or NY to be a great place to live... others will not... just my opinion... I read your reaction to my posts as stated above as if I am some kind of an ill informed naive fool... and hey again, your opinion.. think what you need too... but to disparage posters with what I am interpreting as condescension because they don't think like you is your personal choice... I choose not to do that, because I like others opinions... learn from them, gain different perspective... and again we disagree on that.

Too many folks mentioned it for me to go and find all the quotes - but I don't buy the "Sabres are losing money" bit for one single second. I've posted it before, but many sources (CNBC, Forbes, etc) all put the 2023/24 Sabres (last year of data) as cashflow positive. One estimated a net operating profit of over $13M and another had their EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization) of $15.8M. The two seem to jive given the franchise has no real debt and if the owner is responsible for maintenance of the stadium, I presume they get to depreciate that asset on the business taxes. The talk of someone worth north of $7B scrimping on $5M for his hobby team just does not sound realistic to me. That same year the Bills had a net operating income of over $100M. Even just Pegula Sports or whatever would view the total of the teams. Sure, no one likes losing money (which he is not), but with all his proclaimed love for hockey, etc etc - it does not pass the sniff test. Could he be wary of big name free agents after some pretty spectacular swings and misses? Sure. Isn't the joke around the league that bad decisions happen on July 1? There is also very little logic to the new Bills stadium argument. Again, this is a business, not a person. With steady operating income over $100M, there is no way T-Pegs is not financing a majority of the construction costs. Why? If you had $7B in business assets that probably give you a consistent return in excess of 10% per year - would you cash out a sizeable chunk of that money to avoid a 6% (guessing) construction loan? Heck no. I bet even with a $1B loan against the stadium, the Bills remain cash flow positive. The $1B he got from selling 20% ... he did not use that for the stadium, lol - he invested it somewhere to get more in annual returns than the cost of the loan. Also, some portion of that loan has got to be helping the bottom line on the team's taxes. Cash poor is a total myth that we, the fanbase, have made up and internalized to ease our suffering. T-Pegs could get a low-interest $1B loan faster than most people on this board could a $30k loan to buy a car.

Just so much evidence that Adams has no original thoughts. Malestyn was Apperts because AHL playoffs. Greenway was Granato because coached him before. This random plug from Lindy. This is probably how a lot of NHL guys operate because it is the old boys club but man, Adams hasn't heard an idea one of his coaches has without liking it.

Just like major league pro sports, minor league pro sports pay football and basketball more. I wonder how much of the 700K due to Pegula.

Dahlin is a solid all around defensemen. Byram I wasn't impressed with, sometimes he looked like he could be on Dahlin's level and sometimes he looked like he belonged on the 3rd pairing, very inconsistent. I don't need every guy to throw around the body but I was wanting more. Power is good offensively but is terrible on defense, how can you be a defensemen and literally suck at the part that's in your job title? I'm not a fan at all. Micahel Kesselring seems like a great fit, since I didn't watch many Utah games at all I've been watching Youtube videos and he looks exactly what we needed, a big, rugged, hitting, fighting, stand up for your teammates, defensive defensemen. Samuelsson is definitely regressing, he should be what Kesselring is by now but he doesn't score, doesn't hit, doesn't fight, doesn't stick up for teammates, doesn't play defense well which makes him a perfect fit for what the Sabres are. Timmins is going on his 6th team now since 2019, he offers absolutely 0 offense, he's a plus player which is good, he seems to be a slight defensive upgrade from Clifton but it comes with the expense of hitting. Essentially everything I'm reading is that he's connor Clifton without the toughness or hitting so why didn't we just keep Jacob Bernard-Docker? We didn't do enough on defense imo, not even close. Samuelsson should be gone either by trade or buyout (Samuelsson should have been dealt along with a 2nd to Pittsburgh). This team operates like it's been to the Stanley Cup finals each season yet with only minimum upgrades. Why not go out and find the best 3rd pairing defensive defensmen to pair with Timmins and trade Samuelsson or buy him out? If Byram comes in at a bargain and we don't spend some money anywhere else then this was obviously just a cost cutting year again for Buffalo. My solution would be to trade Byram and get your top 6 forward and use our 1st (protected) next year and go out and get a guy like Rasmus Anderson (but sign him before he comes here) who from what I have seen and read is about the same player as Byram but I must say that -38 last year looks really nasty for Anderson, I don't know why his line was scored on so drastically but I think him paired with Dahlin would help out alot.

Hard to tell what goes on in a clubhouse without being there.

It's all revenue driven.

Come on. Power and Muel are scared of their own shadow. They might as well be 5'6.

Football players are getting 5 million plus. Crazy how little hockey gets.

Repin the thread, please.

Most people would agree with you that this unit is not a shutdown group. As you describe, it’s not constructed to be that caliber of defensemen. However, that’s not the measuring stick. The issue is whether thus group is better defensively than previous units. I would say yes. And is this group compared to previous groups better in transitioning to the offensive zone? I again would say yes. The bottom line for me is that getting better is preferable than not doing so. The more critical issue for me is what caliber of goaltending are we going to get. I don’t really know.

You are correct that my bar of expectation is low. This is what happens when you have a Terry P type ownership. It’s his toy to play with staffed by a sycophantic GM that he personally selected. I am far from being broken, just realistic. My low bar of expectation is to be a low end playoff contender. With a little more tweaking it is doable.

Changed up hits and blocks to be per 82 games (/82) played so it normalizes across all of these dudes. Rasmus Dahlin: 509 games, 360pts, -58, 103 blk/82 blocks, 124hits/82, +11.4relcf%, +17.9xgf and is 25 Timmins: 159 games, 46pts, +21, 86 blk/82, 71 hits/82, 2.2relcf%, +16.5xgf and he will be 27 when the season starts Power: 242 games, 111pts, +8, 108 blk/82, 34 hits/82, 0.5relcf%, -21.4xgf and is 22 turning 23 in November Kesselring: 156 games, 53pts, +14, 70 blk/82, 108 hits/82, 3.6relcf%, +8.4xgf and is 25 Byram: 246 games, 110pts, +26, 104 blk/82, 112 hits/82, -1.7relcf%, -5.9xgf and just turned 24 Bryson: 254 games, 43pts, -38, 89 blk/82, 49 hits/82, -4.7relcf%, -31.6xgf and will be 28 in November Samuelsson: 212 games, 43pts, +3, 132 blk/82, 169 hits/82, -10.8relcf%, -26xgf and he's 25 -------------------------------- Jokiharju: 407 games, 97pts, -17, 87 blk/82, 90 hits/82, -3.6relcf%, -37xgf and he's 26 Clifton: 384 games, 77pts, +43, 110 blk/82, 217 hits/82, -7.3relcf%, -14.1xgf and he's 30

As in Gavin? Penn state must really be trying to build up the hockey program

Apparently he’s making 700K from this decision too.

Is another year of suffering, help us land a player from Pegs other Squad? Is worth it?

Oloffson too………pass

We can still sign Skinner for that open forward spot. He's still available.

We can dream.

The charade is the point: they deal in plausible deniability. PhD’s in it. When is the hearing anyway? I hear they run till august 4. Surely we can’t improve the roster until this is sorted out. I’m sure Adams WANTS to spend to the cap but in his defence I’m just not sure there’ll be much time left before camp opens, once the Bowen Byram situation is cleared up. Given the circumstances, he did ok. it’s all a sham

If this is what’s going on, why the charade of arbitration? Why not just take one of the futures assets deals already offered? Also, why trade Cozens for an even bigger contract just a few months ago? The Norris deal pays near $2.5M more in actual salary this year and will cost Terry about $7M more in real money over the duration.