Doan > Peterka?

[msw2112]

Kesserling was the main piece coming back to the Sabres in the Peterka trade, but Doan is definitely more than just a throw in.  For the season so far, Kesserling has not played due to injury, but Doan has been off to a good start.  I was curious to see how his stats so far compare to Peterka's:

Doan:  6 GP, 2 G, 3 A, 5 points, +1

Peterka:  7 GB, 2 G, 2 A, 4 points, +3

I'm not sure what's more surprising, that Doan has more points so far, in fewer games, or that Peterka has a positive plus/minus!

While I have not seen Peterka play for Utah, I can say that he brought less physical play, positive attitude, tenacity, aggressiveness, defensive play, and leadership to the Sabres than Doan now does.

Wouldn't it be something, if 1 for 1, Doan turns out to be a better player than Peterka, regardless of what Kesserling does?  So far, I'd say that's the case.  It's a long season and this is a small sample size, so I don't want to be unrealistic, but I'm interested to hear what others think.  I'd also add that even if Peterka's offensive stats turn out to be better, if you take Doan's offensive stats PLUS all of the intangibles he brings to the team, could he be deemed the overall better player anyway?  And then add in whatever Kesserling brings to the table, which might be quite a bit.  The Sabres could end up winning this trade in a big way.  Time will tell.  I'm not a huge fan of Adams, but it would be a feather in his cap the Sabres win this trade.

Edited 2 hours ago by msw2112

[LabattBlue]

2 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

Kesserling was the main piece coming back to the Sabres in the Peterka trade, but Doan is definitely more than just a throw in.  For the season so far, Kesserling has not played due to injury, but Doan has been off to a good start.  I was curious to see how his stats so far compare to Peterka's:

Doan:  6 GP, 2 G, 3 A, 5 points, +1

Peterka:  7 GB, 2 G, 2 A, 4 points, +3

I'm not sure what's more surprising, that Doan has more points so far, in fewer games, or that Peterka has a positive plus/minus!

While I have not seen Peterka play for Utah, I can say that he brought less physical play, positive attitude, tenacity, aggressiveness, defensive play, and leadership to the Sabres than Doan now does.

Wouldn't it be something, if 1 for 1, Doan turns out to be a better player than Peterka, regardless of what Kesserling does?  So far, I'd say that's the case.  It's a long season and this is a small sample size, so I don't want to be unrealistic, but I'm interested to hear what others think.  I'd also add that even if Peterka's offensive stats turn out to be better, if you take Doan's offensive stats PLUS all of the intangibles he brings to the team, could he be deemed the overall better player anyway?  And then add in whatever Kesserling brings to the table, which might be quite a bit.  The Sabres could end up winning this trade in a big way.  Time will tell.  I'm not a huge fan of Adams, but it would be a feather in his cap the Sabres win this trade.

Anything that makes Pegula further believe KA is a competent NHL GM is a bad thing…a very bad thing.  

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

Kesserling was the main piece coming back to the Sabres in the Peterka trade, but Doan is definitely more than just a throw in.  For the season so far, Kesserling has not played due to injury, but Doan has been off to a good start.  I was curious to see how his stats so far compare to Peterka's:

Doan:  6 GP, 2 G, 3 A, 5 points, +1

Peterka:  7 GB, 2 G, 2 A, 4 points, +3

I'm not sure what's more surprising, that Doan has more points so far, in fewer games, or that Peterka has a positive plus/minus!

While I have not seen Peterka play for Utah, I can say that he brought less physical play, positive attitude, tenacity, aggressiveness, defensive play, and leadership to the Sabres than Doan now does.

Wouldn't it be something, if 1 for 1, Doan turns out to be a better player than Peterka, regardless of what Kesserling does?  So far, I'd say that's the case.  It's a long season and this is a small sample size, so I don't want to be unrealistic, but I'm interested to hear what others think.  I'd also add that even if Peterka's offensive stats turn out to be better, if you take Doan's offensive stats PLUS all of the intangibles he brings to the team, could he be deemed the overall better player anyway?  And then add in whatever Kesserling brings to the table, which might be quite a bit.  The Sabres could end up winning this trade in a big way.  Time will tell.  I'm not a huge fan of Adams, but it would be a feather in his cap the Sabres win this trade.

I've seen this quite a bit. Idk why anyone thought of Doan as a throw in. Ik it wasn't a big talking point here but it certainly was other places including wgr.

Peterka is a better shooter and a better driver if rush offense. I haven't seen enough of Doan to think he's better than JJP.

[PromoTheRobot]

25 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Anything that makes Pegula further believe KA is a competent NHL GM is a bad thing…a very bad thing.  

That suggests you would prefer the Sabres not make the playoffs.

[ponokasabre]

30 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I've seen this quite a bit. Idk why anyone thought of Doan as a throw in. Ik it wasn't a big talking point here but it certainly was other places including wgr.

Peterka is a better shooter and a better driver if rush offense. I haven't seen enough of Doan to think he's better than JJP.

Completely agree, I felt in no part that Doan was a "throw in". He is the real deal. Now he will need to progress 

I could truly see him peaking at an Alex Tuch player. Could you get you 25-30 goals and 40 assists, being a strong PK and PP front of net player, willing to hit and forecheck and fight if needed, excellent defensively 

Peterka I do truly think could score 40, he probably will never has large assist numbers, a PP asset, never will play PK, more then likely always a defensive liability 

Both of those player are good players but I know the one I want, and its Doan

[mjd1001]

-I could see Doan and Peterka getting close to the same productions numbers and Doan having a better all around/physical game making him the better/more impactful player.

-I could also see Doan slowing his offensive pace and getting half the goals of Peterka, even with a better 2-way game his overall impact being less than Peterka.

I could see it going either way. Its too early to tell.

[GASabresIUFAN]

This thread is very funny.  Talk about a little premature

JJP, age 23, 245 gp 69g, 85a, 145 pts

Doan, age 23, 68gp, 14g, 19a, 33 pts.

[Eleven]

A top prospect is never a "throw in." 

That said, it's a little early to judge his impact.

[mjd1001]

2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

This thread is very funny.  Talk about a little premature

JJP, age 23, 245 gp 69g, 85a, 145 pts

Doan, age 23, 68gp, 14g, 19a, 33 pts.

Not funny at all, a lot of us have thought about this very thing.  Its not about what they have done up to this point, it is about what they are doing right now and going forward this year and beyond.

Also, Sound defensive play and a physical game can make up for any extra offensive production.  Doan scored 17 goals per 82 so far in his career, Peterka is at 23.  Not to mention Peterka has played with higher quality linemates/offensive ability and with a lot more minutes on the PP.  There is a case to be made that Doan will prevent MORE than 6 goals a year than JJP over the course of an 82 game season.

I'm not saying Peterka is worse than Doan.  JJP may very well be the better player. But in the very small sample size we have of Doan, it is worth the discussion (that is what message boards are for, right?)

[JohnC]

Doan and JJP are two different players with different abilities and attributes. From a talent standpoint, JJP is more talented, especially offensively. But from a roster building standpoint, Doan adds something that was desperately needed. 
 

I’m sure Peterka will do well in Utah. And from a Utah perspective it was a good deal for them. On the other hand, from a Sabre standpoint, it addressed a big need for us. If you factor in the addition of Kesserling in the deal, then it was a beneficial deal for us. In general, this was a fair deal for both franchises.

[Doohickie]

Could be complementary skill sets of their linemates.  The Sabres needed more grit and they got it in Doan.  McCloud plays pretty fast but isn't overly physical.  Tuch is physical and skilled.  It sets Doan up in a good position.

Meanwhile in Utah (and granted I don't know much about the team), maybe Cooley and Guenther are defensively responsible enough that a free roaming JJP doesn't hurt the line's +/- numbers.

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

That suggests you would prefer the Sabres not make the playoffs.

Yes, that is what absolutely what I want.  WTF! 
 

I try and give you the benefit of the doubt, but often wonder if your sole reason for being here is to $hit on the fanbase. 
 

 

Edited 27 minutes ago by LabattBlue

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

2 hours ago, msw2112 said:

Doan > Peterka?

Kirk > Picard

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

Kirk > Picard