Nazem Kadri - Could he change the course of this offseason and this franchise?

[SHAAAUGHT!!!]

18 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Kadri had another great year, but 7MM annually until he is 38 in 2029 is too risky.  As much as I want to do anything to break the drought next season, the cliff is coming on his effectiveness and it’s too short sighted to take on his contract given his age. Unless you can talk Calgary into 50% retained for the life of his deal (likely impossible). 

I'd love to get him at $5-5.5M AAV, but he's got the skills and track record where $7M AAV a year is justifiable because he's the type of player that plugs a major hole on the Sabres roster.  His on ice performance alone pprobably won't justify a $7M AAV in the final two years of the contract, but having guys like Kadri, Zucker, Tuch, and Dahlin around these young players over the next 2-3 years would be a huge help in the development of these young skaters and continue to drive the "change in the room" Lindy is preaching.

[SwampD]

19 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Kadri had another great year, but 7MM annually until he is 38 in 2029 is too risky.  As much as I want to do anything to break the drought next season, the cliff is coming on his effectiveness and it’s too short sighted to take on his contract given his age. Unless you can talk Calgary into 50% retained for the life of his deal (likely impossible). 

There is only one thing that matters, and that is making the playoffs next season. Who gives AF about anything beyond that?!

If you don’t think he helps in that, fine, but to say you don’t want him because of what he will make in ‘28-‘29,… really?… REALLY?!?!! It borders on ridiculous.

[LTS]

22 minutes ago, SwampD said:

There is only one thing that matters, and that is making the playoffs next season. Who gives AF about anything beyond that?!

If you don’t think he helps in that, fine, but to say you don’t want him because of what he will make in ‘28-‘29,… really?… REALLY?!?!! It borders on ridiculous.

It's fair.  But if I told you I could guarantee the Sabres make the playoffs this year but then would miss the playoffs again for another 14 years would you take the deal?

[Porous Five Hole]

30 minutes ago, SwampD said:

There is only one thing that matters, and that is making the playoffs next season. Who gives AF about anything beyond that?!

If you don’t think he helps in that, fine, but to say you don’t want him because of what he will make in ‘28-‘29,… really?… REALLY?!?!! It borders on ridiculous.

LTS is right.
I am coming from an armchair GM perspective. Would you give up assets to sign Kadri for 7MM to age 38 if given the chance? It’s a bad contract and I was just calling it that. 

[LTS]

3 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

LTS is right.
I am coming from an armchair GM perspective. Would you give up assets to sign Kadri for 7MM to age 38 if given the chance? It’s a bad contract and I was just calling it that. 

To be honest.. I'm not so much questioning Kadri (I wouldn't get him)..

I was legitimately curious.  How many years of continued playoff misses would people be willing to give up if they could be assured the Sabres made it this year?  It's not really an attempt to insult the fan base but more a measure of where people's heads are at.

I would say that naturally its unlikely they would miss the playoffs for 14 years after making it once... but I would have thought missing the playoffs for 14 years was highly improbable until the Sabres did it.  It probably it still highly improbable, assuming the statistical norm of hockey decision making is made regarding how to build a team, etc.

The Sabres are the perfect storm, for failure.

[SwampD]

1 hour ago, LTS said:

It's fair.  But if I told you I could guarantee the Sabres make the playoffs this year but then would miss the playoffs again for another 14 years would you take the deal?

1 hour ago, Porous Five Hole said:

LTS is right.
I am coming from an armchair GM perspective. Would you give up assets to sign Kadri for 7MM to age 38 if given the chance? It’s a bad contract and I was just calling it that. 

1 hour ago, LTS said:

To be honest.. I'm not so much questioning Kadri (I wouldn't get him)..

I was legitimately curious.  How many years of continued playoff misses would people be willing to give up if they could be assured the Sabres made it this year?  It's not really an attempt to insult the fan base but more a measure of where people's heads are at.

I would say that naturally its unlikely they would miss the playoffs for 14 years after making it once... but I would have thought missing the playoffs for 14 years was highly improbable until the Sabres did it.  It probably it still highly improbable, assuming the statistical norm of hockey decision making is made regarding how to build a team, etc.

The Sabres are the perfect storm, for failure.

As long as the GM is worried about missing the playoffs 2-3 years from now, the Sabres will never make the playoffs now.

[Big Guava]

Nazim Kadri... Nazim Kadri....
We are waiting in the wings for you (waiting in the wings for you)
You could never back down, you never learned to take your time...

Oh, Naaazzziiiimmm Kaaaadrrriii (Naaazzziiiimmm Kaaaadrrriii)
When Buffalo sings for you
Will they know what you overcame?
Will they know you rewrote the game?

The Sabres will never be the same, oooohhhh...
The team is in the harbor center now, see if you can spot him...

Another immigrant coming up from the bottom
His enemies destroyed his rep, the Leafs forgot him...

We fought with him
Me? I played with him
Me? I trusted him
Me? I loved him

And me(Kevyn Adams)? I'm the damn fool that didn't sign him!

There's a million things he hasn't done
But just you waaaaaiiiit....
What's your name, man?

Nazzzimmmm Kaaaddrriii!