That Aud Smell Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, JoeSchmoe said: If teams could play with that intensity all season, they would barely lose. Nor would they be able to sustain the pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 2 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Nor would they be able to sustain the pace. Hence the term 80% league, until the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 20 minutes ago, Thorny said: Players that are better get paid more. Hope that helps. - - - His contract will be 15% of the cap next season. Pastrnak’s is 14% wooooooOOOoooooOooo my online GM simulator broke! It does not compute! Now 'splain this guy as a leader in our locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 18 hours ago, nfreeman said: FFS. The Leafs aren't trading Mathews under any circumstances. why do we even waste time on such threads?? ...its ridonkulous...actually is there a word for more ridiculous than ridonkulous? Cause this thread would be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, Thorny said: No room for the best goal scorer of a generation If only Deluca were here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said: Now 'splain this guy as a leader in our locker room. Konecny is giving up 5 inches and 30+ pounds but I would put money on him in a battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 43 minutes ago, Weave said: If only Deluca were here. 😤 I had the original reference up thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 The playoffs are littered with players and former Sabres that are/were never good enough for some of you people. You only want fictitious prototypical players that only exist in your mind. They only say the right things when you want them to say the right things, they fight every game while having impeccable positioning and never hurt their team, they are big and mean and never go on vacation. They don’t have lives outside of a hockey rink and they have great names for your jerseys. They don’t wear ***** numbers. anyone else can ***** off that way. 👉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 33 minutes ago, SDS said: 😤 I had the original reference up thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 3 minutes ago, Weave said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 1 minute ago, SDS said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, SDS said: 😤 I had the original reference up thread. And I’d do it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre The Cup Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 The guy will end up a top 5-10 goal scorer of all time. He has a goal scoring presence that I haven’t seen since Ovechkin in his prime. We’re in no position to say no to any deal involving Matthews. That said he would hate it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 5 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Explain what about it? Well I doubt he is available if a player like Matthews is available, you make room for his contract. I'd pay 3 million or so more than Skinner for Matthews... Sign. Me. Up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/records/nhl-active-players-all-time-playoff-even-strength-goals-per-60-leaders.html Even strength playoff goal scoring per 60 minutes. He’s currently 30th in the NHL. don’t want that guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 3 minutes ago, SDS said: https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/records/nhl-active-players-all-time-playoff-even-strength-goals-per-60-leaders.html Even strength playoff goal scoring per 60 minutes. He’s currently 30th in the NHL. don’t want that guy! Not at his cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Can we atleast spell his name correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 4 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Can we atleast spell his name correctly Not at his cap hit 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 23 hours ago, Buffalonill said: No .. the dude is selfish and only cares about his goal stats. He is undeniably the best goal scorer in the NHL right now. There has to be selfishness to his game to score 69 goals with only 38 assists. I’ve said it in other threads that they award 2 assists for every goal so there should rarely be a player with a ratio like his. Ovechkin, not known for his playmaking, has averaged 1.22 goals for every assist over his career. Matthews scores 1.31 goals for every assist. He is definitely not the typical center, who sets up his linemates. I believe it is no accident McDavid got 64 goals last year, after Matthews was given the Hart for 60 goals the previous year when McDavid outscored him by almost 20 points. McDavid could probably score 75 if he was more selfish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 1G 4A in 7 games vs MTL in 2021. Vintage Matthews in this clip (fast forward to about 1:50). Vintage series loss to MTL. 9 minutes ago, French Collection said: He is undeniably the best goal scorer in the NHL right now. There has to be selfishness to his game to score 69 goals with only 38 assists. I’ve said it in other threads that they award 2 assists for every goal so there should rarely be a player with a ratio like his. Ovechkin, not known for his playmaking, has averaged 1.22 goals for every assist over his career. Matthews scores 1.31 goals for every assist. He is definitely not the typical center, who sets up his linemates. I believe it is no accident McDavid got 64 goals last year, after Matthews was given the Hart for 60 goals the previous year when McDavid outscored him by almost 20 points. McDavid could probably score 75 if he was more selfish. Same went for Gretzky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 31 minutes ago, French Collection said: He is undeniably the best goal scorer in the NHL right now. There has to be selfishness to his game to score 69 goals with only 38 assists. I’ve said it in other threads that they award 2 assists for every goal so there should rarely be a player with a ratio like his. Ovechkin, not known for his playmaking, has averaged 1.22 goals for every assist over his career. Matthews scores 1.31 goals for every assist. He is definitely not the typical center, who sets up his linemates. I believe it is no accident McDavid got 64 goals last year, after Matthews was given the Hart for 60 goals the previous year when McDavid outscored him by almost 20 points. McDavid could probably score 75 if he was more selfish. Matthews outscored McDavid this year when considering 5 V 5 primary points. So, goals and primary assists 5 V 5. Matthews had 38 g and 17a 55 points McDavid had 19 g and 32a for 51 points. I don’t think it’s a mark of Matthews being selfish, he’s a better player provably at even strength, especially cause his D is Selke level this year apparently McDavid’s advantage is on the power play and secondary helpers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: Matthews outscored McDavid this year when considering 5 V 5 primary points. So, goals and primary assists 5 V 5. Matthews had 38 g and 17a 55 points McDavid had 19 g and 32a for 51 points. I don’t think it’s a mark of Matthews being selfish, he’s a better player provably at even strength, especially cause his D is Selke level this year apparently McDavid’s advantage is on the power play and secondary helpers Is he your Hart candidate? My anti Leafs brain prevents me from seeing him as the best of the best. I’m in the MacKinnon camp this year with Kucherov being second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 6 minutes ago, French Collection said: Is he your Hart candidate? My anti Leafs brain prevents me from seeing him as the best of the best. I’m in the MacKinnon camp this year with Kucherov being second. The thing about Matthews is he was nominated for the Selke, too. So he’s better defensively than the other points guys, he scores way more goals than any of them, and he’s as good or better at even strength? I don’t see how he’s not top 3 he doesn’t have to win but 69 goals and Selke level D NOT being nominated seems truly absurd imo I think he missed a nom by not hitting 70. I think he might have missed because of that arbitrary factor. He’s literally the same guy at 69 but I think that could he a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Why is Matthews nominated for the Selke? Serious question, not trying to ***** on him. He seems positionally sound and he’s obviously got the size and skill to match up well. But I’ve never really watched him and said *****, there’s Matthews breaking up another rush, blocking another shot, or taking away another puck. But I see him 5 or 10 times a year and can’t say I’ve ever focused on him on that side of the puck. Was there some serious analytics that he dropped this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 9 minutes ago, Thorny said: The thing about Matthews is he was nominated for the Selke, too. So he’s better defensively than the other points guys, he scores way more goals than any of them, and he’s as good or better at even strength? I don’t see how he’s not top 3 he doesn’t have to win but 69 goals and Selke level D NOT being nominated seems truly absurd imo I think he missed a nom by not hitting 70. I think he might have missed because of that arbitrary factor. He’s literally the same guy at 69 but I think that could he a reason Again, my anti Leafs bias prevents me from seeing him as a defensive stalwart like Bergeron, Kopitar, Barkov O’Reilly and Toews. He would have to be 25% better than the next guy for me to consider him the best, it’s just the way I am wired. I can’t even strike up a conversation with someone wearing a Matthews sweater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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