LGR4GM Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 We're not there yet but the 2023 draft at the top will be bananas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: We're not there yet but the 2023 draft at the top will be bananas Impressive! I can’t wait to see the competition with Bedard over the next two years. A couple of teams will be getting some serious building blocks, maybe an entire foundation. He’s rocking #39. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, French Collection said: Impressive! I can’t wait to see the competition with Bedard over the next two years. A couple of teams will be getting some serious building blocks, maybe an entire foundation. He’s rocking #39. Hopefully it will be us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: We're not there yet but the 2023 draft at the top will be bananas It’s never too early to begin planning a tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Hopefully it will be us You hope that we are drafting at the top of the 2023 draft? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 The Sabres won’t be in the Bedard Michkov race. I think a more likely target will be Buffalo boy Musty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Curt said: You hope that we are drafting at the top of the 2023 draft? Yes seeing how we lack talent i would rather have 15 years of Being a contender then a Bubble team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Yes seeing how we lack talent i would rather have 15 years of Being a contender then a Bubble team More accurately you are hoping for 15 yrs of no playoffs, a few mediocre years, and contender some time after. Some people just like losing I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: The Sabres won’t be in the Bedard Michkov race. I think a more likely target will be Buffalo boy Musty How can anyone say this 16 games in this season buffalo has bottomed out after December every year i have no confidence in this team 6 minutes ago, Weave said: More accurately you are hoping for 15 yrs of no playoffs, a few mediocre years, and contender some time after. Some people just like losing I guess. Yes beacuse the Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh just suck every year correct? The league is built around elite talent nothing more nothing less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: How can anyone say this 16 games in this season buffalo has bottomed out after December every year i have no confidence in this team Yes beacuse the Washington Capitals and Pittsburgh just suck every year correct? The league is built around elite talent nothing more nothing less Was that disagreement with what I posted? It didn’t seem to respond to it directly at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, Weave said: Was that disagreement with what I posted? It didn’t seem to respond to it directly at all. You said 15 years of no playoffs yet those 2 teams Can always be in the mix to win the cup with elite talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Buffalonill said: Yes seeing how we lack talent i would rather have 15 years of Being a contender then a Bubble team Id prefer to be a playoff team or bubble team, and hope that the team can make the right moves to improve further from there. If the team misses the playoffs, sure, I’ll hope that they get to draft a great player, but I’m not going to hope that they finish at the bottom of the league or anything like that. In your opinion, what do the Sabres need before they should try to win games? Edited November 20, 2021 by Curt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Curt said: Id prefer to be a playoff team or bubble team, and hope that the team can make the right moves to improve further from there. If the team misses the playoffs, sure, I’ll hope that they get to draft a great player, but I’m not going to hope that they finish at the bottom of the league or anything like that. In your opinion, what do the Sabres need before they should try to win games? Elite talent which they do not have need a guy or 2 that will be that . Teams that won a cup have 1 or more elite players on that roster Edited November 20, 2021 by Buffalonill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 20, 2021 Report Share Posted November 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Elite talent which they do not have need a guy or 2 that will be that . Teams that won a cup have 1 or more elite players on that roster Maybe they do have elite talent that just hasn’t finished developing yet. Maybe they can draft elite talent in the mid 1st or even in later rounds. What if they draft top 5 in the 2022 draft, should they then try to loose as much as possible to also draft high in 2023? What if they miss out on the best prospects in 2023 and draft 5, should they try to loose again in the 2023-24 season. How many years do you think it’s acceptable to loose on purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 I think it’s ironic we purposely tanked for a “generational talent” and didn’t get him. Then we just plain sucked, won the lottery, and drafted the “generational talent” known as Rasmus Dahlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Buffalonill said: You said 15 years of no playoffs yet those 2 teams Can always be in the mix to win the cup with elite talent We've already been 10 seasons without playoffs. What's a few more while we wait for a magic bullet? 1. Take a look at the list of #1OAL picks that never won a cup 2. We've had 3 swings at "elite talent" in the last 7 years. 3. You don't build a winning team by losing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 12 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Tucker Robertson is a player Buffalo should look at in the 2-4 round range. He's 19 on June 22 but is another OHL guy who got screwed last year. This is the type of overage guy you should look for and he's currently 2nd in the ohl in ppg. The person in first will be 21 in January for comparison. 16gp, 14g, 15a, 29pts. I believe Mason McTavish is on Tuckers team now so that will be interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 The Sabres are bringing in Krebs, Peterka, Quinn, Tuch, Power and Samuelsson to the roster next year. I think an upgrade to goaltending is made by a trade. This team will be closer to the playoffs than the Top Three next season 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Weave said: We've already been 10 seasons without playoffs. What's a few more while we wait for a magic bullet? 1. Take a look at the list of #1OAL picks that never won a cup 2. We've had 3 swings at "elite talent" in the last 7 years. 3. You don't build a winning team by losing. Tampa Disagrees .. Also can add in Colorado when they win their cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, Brawndo said: The Sabres are bringing in Krebs, Peterka, Quinn, Tuch, Power and Samuelsson to the roster next year. I think an upgrade to goaltending is made by a trade. This team will be closer to the playoffs than the Top Three next season Counting on rookies is a bad idea and could hurt them if rushed we tried that many times and didn't work out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Curt said: Maybe they do have elite talent that just hasn’t finished developing yet. Maybe they can draft elite talent in the mid 1st or even in later rounds. What if they draft top 5 in the 2022 draft, should they then try to loose as much as possible to also draft high in 2023? What if they miss out on the best prospects in 2023 and draft 5, should they try to loose again in the 2023-24 season. How many years do you think it’s acceptable to loose on purpose? The owner probably wants to tank and get the star player there's no way the wanted to win this year . 3 key examples. 1. Signing Goalies that are trash 2. Trading our players for picks 3.Taking on Boychuks contract When they could easily used that money to get a veteran center or help us win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Counting on rookies is a bad idea and could hurt them if rushed we tried that many times and didn't work out Which ones of Krebs, Quinn, JJ, Tuch, Power, Samuelsson are they rushing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: The owner probably wants to tank and get the star player there's no way the wanted to win this year . 3 key examples. 1. Signing Goalies that are trash 2. Trading our players for picks 3.Taking on Boychuks contract When they could easily used that money to get a veteran center or help us win Weird hill to die on. They could literally add the most expensive player in the league and still be several million under the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Which ones of Krebs, Quinn, JJ, Tuch, Power, Samuelsson are they rushing? So you're going to have 5 rookies + a rookie in the top 5 playing next year ? 6 in total i don't see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: So you're going to have 5 rookies + a rookie in the top 5 playing next year ? 6 in total i don't see it I asked my question first. 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: So you're going to have 5 rookies + a rookie in the top 5 playing next year ? 6 in total i don't see it Also you didn't even read what I wrote. The 6 players listed are not all rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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