Sabre fan Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Okay, I think most goalies are over paid anyways, but I think Robin Lehner is a RFA this summer, which leads us to a very critical situation. We obviously have to re0sign him (gave up far too much not to) so what the heck is this guy worth? Verdict is still out on whether he is truly a #1 and we will probably lose Ulmark to Las Vegas so what of our goaltending situation? Not sure what the answer is here to be honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 $1 million for each shootout save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Qualifying offer would be $3.15M for one year. Bridge contract would be 2 years. It's possible that Lehner attracts an offer sheet, but in order for us to not match, based on compensatory picks, he'd probably have to be offered >$5.5M (1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders, instead of just 1st and 3rd); it's unlikely a team would do that. If GMTM is in on him for the long haul, I'd expect something like $4-5M AAV for 4-5 years; that'd rank Lehner 26th-18th in goalie cap hit. If GMTM's wants to do a wait and see, he may just get a bridge contract, maybe $3.5-4M for two years, but this risks a bigger caphit on a longterm contract two years from now - especially if our defense improves and he really starts to shine. I don't feel that we're pressed for cap space, so going beyond a bridge now to keep costs down later is reasonable. I think Lehner's been a very underrated goalie hidden behind a defense -maybe the league's worst defense- and he shows signs of being a very capable starting goaltender. I'd like to see 4 years at $4.5M. I think that's fair to all involved and could potentially be very good value in those UFA years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 No way, no how, am I okay with more than a bridge for Lehner. Contrary to popular belief, I actually think his weaknesses are insulated by the system we play. Lots of shots, but most aren't especially dangerous, and he's good at stopping those. He's abysmal at stopping quality chances from the high percentage areas, but the way we play, there's not too many of those going his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 No way, no how, am I okay with more than a bridge for Lehner. Contrary to popular belief, I actually think his weaknesses are insulated by the system we play. Lots of shots, but most aren't especially dangerous, and he's good at stopping those. He's abysmal at stopping quality chances from the high percentage areas, but the way we play, there's not too many of those going his way.But we won't be playing like that next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'll qualify him, but I'm not interested in long term deals. I don't really care what we do for goalies to be honest. Goalie purgatory is whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Sigh.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 But we won't be playing like that next season That's my point--we don't know who he is yet. I think the evidence suggests he's protected, and could be exposed if we start playing a more open game. Can't commit long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Let him go. He'll be 26 next year, past his prime, so he won't get any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Let him go. He'll be 26 next year, past his prime, so he won't get any better.This guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 JJ with the strawman? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I'm sure you get the gist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 This guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 No way, no how, am I okay with more than a bridge for Lehner. Contrary to popular belief, I actually think his weaknesses are insulated by the system we play. Lots of shots, but most aren't especially dangerous, and he's good at stopping those. He's abysmal at stopping quality chances from the high percentage areas, but the way we play, there's not too many of those going his way.Co-sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 2 year deal, 3 mil aav. He may prove himself. Then again, he may stay flat even with a better defense and system around him. 2 years at 3 mil a season is proving time. Next season, if he's not claimed, I want Ullmark up full time, and not as a backup either. But fighting for the starter job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotentPowerPlay22 Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Let him go. He'll be 26 next year, past his prime, so he won't get any better. Maybe Ottawa would give a 1st rounder for him! Now you can see how ludicrous that trade by GMTM really was!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Maybe Ottawa would give a 1st rounder for him! Now you can see how ludicrous that trade by GMTM really was!!! No, I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 These three recent deals are your best comparables: Frederik Andersen's five-year $25 million deal Peter Mrazek's two-year $8 million deal Jake Allen's four-year 17.4 million deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 I don't think anyone is going to make a serious run or offer to Lehner this offseason, he just hasn't been good enough for the teams in need of a starting goaltender to go after him, there are plenty of others out there that will get attention over him. He could get some interest as a cheap backup option, but I doubt he gets someone making an offer to him as a RFA for that role. (If he was a UFA I'm sure some teams would be making some backup position offers) As for Ullmark, I doubt Vegas is sniffing around Buffalo for a goaltender with the options that will be available to them. They may have a shot at Fleury, Luongo, Mason, Halak, or another veteran with experience who can give them a solid starter to start out with, and there will be other options that they will have for a backup/young development guy instead of Ullmark who hasn't really been attracting much attention around the league. With Vegas being able to pick only one player per team, I would almost guarantee their choice from Buffalo would not be a goaltender, they are going to take a defencemen or Forward (Moulson, Ennis, Bogo, Gorges). A veteran guy who will give them experience and might be able to help out right away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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