dudacek Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 You need the best players. Those come in all shapes and sizes, but the shapes and the sizes are basically irrelevant. This is true. It's a mistake to say big, strong physical players aren't a weapon that can't be used to great effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Again, I just don't think this is true. The modern dynasty is one of the smallest, least physical teams in the league (so long as you measure this by the traditional height/weight and hits metrics). Tampa is a small, finesse team, and made the Cup last year. I could go on. You need the best players. Those come in all shapes and sizes, but the shapes and the sizes are basically irrelevant. Made it, and didn't win it. Meanwhile LA is the opposite and had wii. 2 Cups I'm kinda playing devils advocate here through. I don't belive in the 'heavy' game that the Bruins and Kings play. I do, however, believe in the possession that those teams dominate in. Chicago is by no means a 'heavy' team. But they win because they play the game right. There are other ways of driving possession than beating te opponent into submission I agree, you get maybe one game in 5 where he's actually banging people around and with him when he's not physical he's useless because he doesn't really do anything else. I stand by the statement that if Foligno had a nondescript last name we'd all have a different opinion of him and his maddening inconsistency.Exactly! :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I love a freshly flooded sheet of ice. While Bettman is still around and seeing how he loves to constantly with the rules and structure of the game, they should make the game six periods of ten minutes and we will have better play and beautiful sheer ice to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) I agree, you get maybe one game in 5 where he's actually banging people around and with him when he's not physical he's useless because he doesn't really do anything else. I stand by the statement that if Foligno had a nondescript last name we'd all have a different opinion of him and his maddening inconsistency. See, this true for his career. But he is just now becoming a veteran. Prior to this season he's played less than 200 games . I think he has been consistently effective this entire calendar year. Now go find the fancy stats to prove me wrong Edited February 28, 2016 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 This is true. It's a mistake to say big, strong physical players aren't a weapon that can't be used to great effect. Never said they couldn't be. My issue is when the big, strong, physical play comes as a tradeoff where you lose other things such as hockey sense and passing ability. See, this true for his career. But he is just now becoming a veteran. Prior to this season he's played less than 200 games . I think he has been consistently effective this entire calendar year. Now go find the fancy stats to prove me wrong Since the season started in the last calendar year, I find this a humorous way to argue he's found consistency :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) See, this true for his career. But he is just now becoming a veteran. Prior to this season he's played less than 200 games . I think he has been consistently effective this entire calendar year. Now go find the fancy stats to prove me wrong Sorry, dudacek, but Foligno has not been consistent this year IMO. He even had an interview the other month where he admitted it Edited February 28, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyhound Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) If I had to make a choice Foligno vs Bailey, I would take Bailey. Consistent. By the way anybody have an idea what kind of team TM is trying to build? I've heard a team hard to play against; however, I would prefer a team that has some skill that can put the puck in the net. :P Team identity? Edited February 28, 2016 by hockeyhound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I'm developing a man crush on Larsson. Two very nice, smart passes right there. I don't know what happened to him, but he's finally found his game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I can't believe I'm still awake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) OK, I give up. But I will remember this thread when Foligno helps the Ducks win the Cup this year. Edited February 28, 2016 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 OK, I give up. But I will remember this thread when Foligno helps the Ducks win the Cup this year. The Ducks could get Stamkos and they still wouldn't win the Cup ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyhound Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) This is true. It's a mistake to say big, strong physical players aren't a weapon that can't be used to great effect. So what you're trying to say is, Size matters. Edited February 28, 2016 by hockeyhound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I think Brad May is right. Jack has got to be the man and get one tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 We view Foligno as a bottom six forward. Per Matthew Coller a few GMs in the league still view him as a top six power forward and them maybe willing to compensate the Sabres in a trade based on that fact. If someone is willing to do that, pull the trigger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 OK, I give up. But I will remember this thread when Foligno helps the Ducks win the Cup this year. I love Foligno when he's on his game. He's just not on it enough for me to want to hitch my wagon to him. I wish I could be confident he'd play like this all the time, I'm just not. I also don't think it's a coincidence he's found his game since getting paired with Larsson. Which brings me to... I'm developing a man crush on Larsson. Two very nice, smart passes right there. I don't know what happened to him, but he's finally found his game Everyone should have a mancrush on Larsson. I said it before and I meant it: if you don't appreciate Larsson's game you're a bad hockey fan. We view Foligno as a bottom six forward. Per Matthew Coller a few GMs in the league still view him as a top six power forward and them maybe willing to compensate the Sabres in a trade based on that fact. If someone is willing to do that, pull the trigger! Yea, I mean, if somebody's offering top-6 value then I couldn't move him fast enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 OK, I give up. But I will remember this thread when Foligno helps the Ducks win the Cup this year. As long as Fowler or Lindholm are on the Sabres when we win the cup, I'll be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) I guess I'm a bad hockey fan. Will somebody please tell Goober that we need to be in the lead before going into shell mode? Edited February 28, 2016 by JJFIVEOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 We view Foligno as a bottom six forward. Per Matthew Coller a few GMs in the league still view him as a top six power forward and them maybe willing to compensate the Sabres in a trade based on that fact. If someone is willing to do that, pull the trigger!In a heart beat I feel Iike we want Foligno to be Kane, but he never will be Ahhhhh sooooo close!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 That was some great goaltending there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I just wish Larry would show even a speck of offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Kane just celebrated twice for zero goals :lol: Puck luck :( I just wish Larry would show even a speck of offence. He'd have a couple apples tonight if his wingers would finish. This is a recording you could play most nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) I just wish Larry would show even a speck of offence.Same, but it'll never happen. He really is the perfect 3rd line center. He makes the smart play every time. Edited February 28, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I guess I'm a bad hockey fan. Will somebody please tell Goober that we need to be in the lead before going into shell mode? That was evident well before you didn't care for Larsson :nana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I guess I'm a bad hockey fan. Will somebody please tell Goober that we need to be in the lead before going into shell mode? I must be a bad fan too. The sabres best defensive forward ever, Craig Ramsay, could score more than occassionally. Larsson, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyhound Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 In a heart beat I feel Iike we want Foligno to be Kane, but he never will be Ahhhhh sooooo close!!! I would agree with that; Kanes' drive and attitude in Folignos' body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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