WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) I really don't think we're Edmonton. We're fresh out of the tank, with less talent, and we're already better than them. They consistently failed to bring veterans in to guide the young guys, any defense whatsoever, or ever find a goalie. We have 2/3 of those locked down, with the defense 1-2 players away from being set. Edmonton's problem isn't that they tanked/went through a rebuild, plenty of teams do that. They just did it in the most moronic way imaginable, by completely ignoring glaring faults and adding the same type of young, not ready players again and again. Edmonton is a truly unique case Edited February 28, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I think carrying Gorges on top-pair minutes has finally caught up to him. He's struggling mightily right now. Ya looks like it. I very much hope that's all it is. He had such a stellar start to the season, it's tough to watch right now. Unfortunately some players have curves this year inverse to what I was hoping for. Not all, but some. Also, we really, really miss ROR. I don't think that can be overstated. To the point where I think he is one of the leagues true MVPs. In the most valuable to his team sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Foligno is not invisible every game. He gives you that one shift tease that he can be a top 6. Just like the one golf shot we all make during a round that keeps us coming back.As someone who is terrible at but loves golf, you hit home with that one :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Brad May has my back on Larsson's offense! Going on about how he's a good passer and his wingers aren't finishing. Preach it Brad!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I think McGinn is anywhere from bad to mediocre defensively. Foligno is solid to quite good. So...yes.Foligno is cheaper and younger, I'll give you that. He may be the better option in the long run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyhound Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) Larsson truly is the most improved player on this team. I certainly would've liked to see Girgs in that same category; however, I get the feeling he is playing with an injury. I would like to see this team at least work their way into a wild card spot next year. I'm just not seeing it yet. Edited February 28, 2016 by hockeyhound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I think Zemgus is making Zemgus expendable, lately. Mind boggling was has happened to him this year. I really don't think we're Edmonton. We're fresh out if the tank, with less talent, and we're already better than them. They consistently failed to Ning veterans in to guide the young guys, any defense whatsoever, or ever find a goalie. We have 2/3 of those locked down, with the defense 1-2 players away from being set. Edmonton's problem isn't that they tanked/went through a rebuild, plenty of teams do that. They just did it in the most moronic way imaginable, by completely ignoring glaring faults and adding tr same type of young, not ready players again and again. Edmonton is a truly unique case Good stuff, this gives credence to the hope that we are not them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I really don't think we're Edmonton. We're fresh out if the tank, with less talent, and we're already better than them. They consistently failed to Ning veterans in to guide the young guys, any defense whatsoever, or ever find a goalie. We have 2/3 of those locked down, with the defense 1-2 players away from being set. Edmonton's problem isn't that they tanked/went through a rebuild, plenty of teams do that. They just did it in the most moronic way imaginable, by completely ignoring glaring faults and adding tr same type of young, not ready players again and again. Edmonton is a truly unique case Agreed. And we have a GM who is doing more than sitting back and letting the prospects develop. I honestly think we could have morphed into Edmonton with Darcy still at the helm. But Murray? Well we might still go down, but we're going down swingin' :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Outmatched tonight. Got to try to see the long term goal. This really is the take away message from tonight's game. We played a cup team and lost and at this point of our building it is gonna happen. We had energy when we shouldn't have considering the roadie and the flights etc. I'm surprised this didn't get more play. That was an embarrassing effort from Risto on that goal. The silver lining is maybe that'll lower the AAV of his new contract. :blink: To be fair to him he was still shaking off yet another crushing hit. But if they're talking contract tonight, I definitely showcase that to him and his agent lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Foligno is cheaper and younger, I'll give you that. He may be the better option in the long run I'm not even sure I want Foligno around long term, but I'm positive McGinn can't do what he does on that 3rd line so long as Bylsma is the coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I really don't think we're Edmonton. We're fresh out if the tank, with less talent, and we're already better than them. They consistently failed to Ning veterans in to guide the young guys, any defense whatsoever, or ever find a goalie. We have 2/3 of those locked down, with the defense 1-2 players away from being set. Edmonton's problem isn't that they tanked/went through a rebuild, plenty of teams do that. They just did it in the most moronic way imaginable, by completely ignoring glaring faults and adding tr same type of young, not ready players again and again. Edmonton is a truly unique case I always agree in the draft to go BPA. I think Edmonton did, but it didnt work out. I agree, Edmonton is a unique case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Darcy in charge of this rebuild would be truly terrifying. I shudder just thinking about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Somehow I don't think a player who's average a 20 goal/82 game pace over the last 5 years is considered a 3rd liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) I always agree in the draft to go BPA. I think Edmonton did, but it didnt work out. I agree, Edmonton is a unique case.It's hard to fault them in their high draft choices, but paradoxically they shouldn't have ever been drafting those players if they were good at drafting to begin with. It's almost comical how much McDavid is like Crosby, both in talent and their organizations' inept drafting and inability to correct seemingly simple problems. Getting elite talent is the hard part, filling out the rest of your roster shouldn't be. Edited February 28, 2016 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 It's about time we all go to Denny's for a Grand Slam breakfast to continue this conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Somehow I don't think a player who's average a 20 goal/82 game pace over the last 5 years is considered a 3rd liner. Well, if all we can garner for him is a 3rd-4th round pick, I think that speaks to what the league sees him as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 References to Edmonton make me shudder. It's a good point regarding their identity. Having seen McGinn this year, I thought he played into the identity (albeit not on the 1-2 line). But I thought that was the identity. Now he will leave to get picks that wont be in the lineup for 4 years. Are we in lather, rinse, repeat mode like the other Buffalo franchise? We are not Edmonton, now will be. We're solid in goal years before they are. Yes it was. And now I'm awake. Welcome! To be fair Foligno is invisible every game. Is it that McGinn isn't as good defensively as Gionta/Foligno, or that Foligno is that good defensively? That is rich my man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I was going to post here during the game, but I ended up talking to the old man during the first period and first half of the second, we don't get to do that much because of school, it was nice. Dads and their life lessons. The Kings are good. I expected to be run out of the building. But the boys showed up. I expect to win this game next year. I'm proud of the way they played. Jack looked great, the line of Kane-Jack-Samson fought through the team that is tough enough to cycle and board-play their way to a cup. Eichel v Kopitar. Invaluable learning was done tonight. Sam's stick lift that one play was gold. I like Marcus a lot recently. Lehner is the man. I love this team and this sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I'm not even sure I want Foligno around long term, but I'm positive McGinn can't do what he does on that 3rd line so long as Bylsma is the coach. This is such an unfortunate caveat that is starting to permeate way too many segments of our team's current make-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyhound Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I really don't think we're Edmonton. We're fresh out of the tank, with less talent, and we're already better than them. They consistently failed to bring veterans in to guide the young guys, any defense whatsoever, or ever find a goalie. We have 2/3 of those locked down, with the defense 1-2 players away from being set. Edmonton's problem isn't that they tanked/went through a rebuild, plenty of teams do that. They just did it in the most moronic way imaginable, by completely ignoring glaring faults and adding the same type of young, not ready players again and again. Edmonton is a truly unique case Work's for me; let's just see some improvement soon please before any of us have to leave the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 It's about time we all go to Denny's for a Grand Slam breakfast to continue this conversation. You buying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 You buying? Sure. At this hour, it's probably just you me, Wild and Hound. I can afford that. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Man, I haven't done a drunk Denny's run in forever. I'm both surprised and happy that that is a universal thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sure. At this hour, it's probably just you me, Wild and Hound. I can afford that. :P I'm always down for some Denny's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 I'm always down for some Denny's. OK Briere. But now I'll need you all to pitch in for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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