darksabre Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Here's the indictment, in case anyone is curious:borelli.pdf Holy ######: The sum of approximately $76,000,000.00 United States currency, which sum of money is equal to the total amount, which constitutes or is derived from the gross proceeds involved in the illegal gambling business offenses for which the defendants are charged, and for which the defendants are jointly and severally liable. In the event that sum is not available, then a money judgment for the same amount, which amount represents the total amount of proceeds that were obtained, directly or indirectly, as a result of the offense described in Count 1 will be entered against the defendants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 You are performing very well in Ghost's absence. Carry on. Did he rage-quit the message board again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Did he rage-quit the message board again? I blame d4rk. It's why we can never have anything nice around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I blame d4rk. It's why we can never have anything nice around here. ah, a Family Feud. What we need is Louie Anderson, John O'Hurley, or Steve Harvey. They'd be able to sort everything out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottosmagic13 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 ah, a Family Feud. What we need is Louie Anderson, John O'Hurley, or Steve Harvey. They'd be able to sort everything out. Or just Judge Judy, Maury, and/or Jerry Springer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 So Vanek was part of the criminal underworld and squealed the second the feds came calling. He's softer than we thought!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 He'd Vanek face his way to all your money Can't read my, Can't read my... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Can't read my, Can't read my... I dislike you :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Former Sabres star Thomas Vanek questioned in gambling probe because his name showed up gambling records seized in probe, D&C is told.— Gary Craig (@gcraig1) July 22, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/07/22/thomas-vanek-gambling/12992495/ "Representatives of the U.S. Federal Government have asked for my cooperation in an investigation," Vanek said in a statement Monday. "I am not the subject of any investigation or prosecution. I will fully cooperate with the U.S. Federal authorities in their investigation or in any proceedings arising out of it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MattPie Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I dislike you :angry: Polka Face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Former Sabres star Thomas Vanek questioned in gambling probe because his name showed up gambling records seized in probe, D&C is told.— Gary Craig (@gcraig1) July 22, 2014 What halfway decent illegal book uses real names? Seriously? Come on man, that's kids stuff. Code names protect your clients which in turn protect you. This ring deserves to go down if they are messing up the easy stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 What halfway decent illegal book uses real names? Seriously? Come on man, that's kids stuff. Code names protect your clients which in turn protect you. This ring deserves to go down if they are messing up the easy stuff. To their credit, they did use "Tommy Constipation," but J. Edgar Hoover figured it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 To their credit, they did use "Tommy Constipation," but J. Edgar Hoover figured it out. Ok, fair enough. I was worried for a minute there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Anti-betting laws are lame. You can bet on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Anti-betting laws are lame. You can bet on that. Laundering 76 Million Dolllars - is that lame too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Laundering 76 Million Dolllars - is that lame too? Money laundering =/= betting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Money laundering =/= betting. But people may wonder how much of that $76 Million Vanek took to shave points. That's serious business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Laundering 76 Million Dolllars - is that lame too? Money laundering =/= betting. I think that's XB's point. No way all of that $76M came from bets. EDIT: I am familiar with what is colloquially called "cop math." Still. $76M?! Edited July 23, 2014 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think that's XB's point. No way all of that $76M came from bets. EDIT: I am familiar with what is colloquially called "cop math." Still. $76M?! Yea, I wouldn't believe it either. I wasn't specifically saying this situation is lame because they're making a fuss out of betting as I'm sure there's more to it. My comment was just about anti-betting laws in general. Can somebody explain the need for strict betting laws to me (as far as the need for them)? Other than sometimes untraceable movement of cash and bringing certain crowds together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yea, I wouldn't believe it either. I wasn't specifically saying this situation is lame because they're making a fuss out of betting as I'm sure there's more to it. My comment was just about anti-betting laws in general. Can somebody explain the need for strict betting laws to me (as far as the need for them)? Other than sometimes untraceable movement of cash and bringing certain crowds together. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Puritan_culture_and_recreation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yea, I wouldn't believe it either. I wasn't specifically saying this situation is lame because they're making a fuss out of betting as I'm sure there's more to it. My comment was just about anti-betting laws in general. Can somebody explain the need for strict betting laws to me (as far as the need for them)? Other than sometimes untraceable movement of cash and bringing certain crowds together. I actually think NY laws are sensible. Personal wagers are legal but unenforceable contracts - as long as a bookmaker isn't taking a cut. Once a bookie is making a profit - that leads to thumbs getting broken. Just remember - they got Capone for tax evasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 How the heck does TV wind up being a witness to a gambling ring? Easy. He used to place bets with Borrelli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Easy. He used to place bets with Borrelli. Well yeah now we know :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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