LastPommerFan Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 So there has been a lot of talk about how good the Vanek Trade has been/could be for us. At the same time it has been/will be terrible for the Islanders. But what is the WORST trade a team has made since the Sharks began the modern expansion era? It could be a fleecing, a team that traded away a critical cog, or just a plain head scratcher. After we get a dozen or so nominations, I'll throw up a poll so we can have a vote. _______________________________________ My first nomination is the Islanders Chara and the 2nd overall (Spezza) for Yashin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) 1992 - Hasek to Buffalo for Stephane Beauregard and a conditional pick (Eric Daze) Edited July 10, 2014 by BuffaloSoldier2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 1992 - Hasek to Buffalo for Stephane Beauregard and a conditional pick (Eric Daze) If trades where you could almost never project what the player (Hasek) became then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 hindsight vs realtime could definitely be a judgement criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanbe Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) LIndros trade '91. Lindros to the Flyers and the Nords get back Peter Forsberg, Steve Duschene, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Philly’s first-round pick in 1993 and 1994, and $15 million in cash. Jocylen Thibault with Philly’s 1993 pick. = Philly Phail. Edited July 10, 2014 by Jeanbe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 LIndros trade '91. Lindros to the Flyers and the Nords get back Peter Forsberg, Steve Duschene, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Philly’s first-round pick in 1993 and 1994, and $15 million in cash. Jocylen Thibault with Philly’s 1993 pick. Great example of the point I was trying to make in the Summer Trades thread. Even if you absolutely love the player you are getting, if you trade away enough decent prospects, odds are good you are going to lose the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanbe Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Totally agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) On the Sabres front, this one was pretty poor: Toronto Maple Leafs acquire Dave Andreychuk, Daren Puppa 1993 1st round pick (#12-Kenny Jonsson) Buffalo Sabres acquire Grant Fuh, 1995 5th round pick (#119-Kevin Popp) Edited July 10, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Puppa. That's just funny to say. Puppa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 If trades where you could almost never project what the player (Hasek) became then yes. true, although Chara wasn't much of anything other than a project at the point of the isles ottowa trade mentioned above either. I think they're of similar ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Or how about this one: Buffalo Sabres acquire Vyacheslav Kozlov 2002 1st round pick (#30-Jim Slater) 2003 conditional pick (not exercised) Detroit Red Wings acquire Dominik Hasek Edited July 10, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 On the Sabres front, this one was pretty poor: Toronto Maple Leafs acquire Dave Andreychuk, Daren Puppa 1993 1st round pick (#12-Kenny Jonsson) Buffalo Sabres acquire Grant Fuh, 1995 5th round pick (#119-Kevin Popp) but it opened the door for the Dominator :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 1992 - Hasek to Buffalo for Stephane Beauregard and a conditional pick (Eric Daze) That was tecnically the trade. For all intents & purposes it was Ruuttu & 4th round pick (Daze) for Hasek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Here's one I had complete forgotten about: Buffalo Sabres acquire Michal Grosek Darryl Shannon Winnipeg Jets acquire Craig Muni 1996 1st round pick (#24-Daniel Briere) Edited July 10, 2014 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 On the Sabres front, this one was pretty poor: Toronto Maple Leafs acquire Dave Andreychuk, Daren Puppa 1993 1st round pick (#12-Kenny Jonsson) Buffalo Sabres acquire Grant Fuh, 1995 5th round pick (#119-Kevin Popp) IF that somehow doesn't appear to be an example of Muckler getting fleeced, remember HE ALREADY HAD HASEK. :doh: :doh: :doh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Not to derail the thread, but it's hard to think of a trade where 2 players as good as Lindros and Forsberg were traded for each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Not to derail the thread, but it's hard to think of a trade where 2 players as good as Lindros and Forsberg were traded for each other. Lemaire for Perreault? ;) Middleton for Hodge Espo & Vadnais for Park, Ratelle, & (throw in) Zanussi. Hodgson for Kassian. :P Clark & a bunch for Sundin & a bunch LeClair, Desjardins, & Dionne for Recchi & a pick. (See what I did there - kept thread on track & helped the hijack. ;)) Nieuwendyk for Iginla That was present assets traded for equal value in future assets. (Millen was adder from Dallas) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Here's one I had complete forgotten about: Buffalo Sabres acquire Michal Grosek Darryl Shannon Winnipeg Jets acquire Craig Muni 1996 1st round pick (#24-Daniel Briere) Don't forget though that only a few years later ...... we traded Chris Gratton, 2004 fourth round pick (#112-Liam Reddox) to the Coyotes for Daniel Briere, 2004 third round pick (#71-Andrej Sekera) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Gonna nominate the Lindros-Forsberg trade or, as it's apparently called, "Le Trade:" -To the Avs: Patrick Roy and captain Mike Keane -To the Canadians: Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Ručínský, and Andrei Kovalenko. Only problem with this one is that Roy wanted out so badly; backed Montreal into a corner really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Mike Peca for Tim Connolly and Taylor Pyatt, On paper, there are much worse trades than this one, but for me it marked the day Darcy told us all : "We no longer believe in grit and hard work, but are going to be a smallish finesse team, full of one-dimensional underachievers". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byebye Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Joe Thornton from boston to San Jose in exchange for Wayne primeau, Marco Sturm, and brad Stuart was pretty bad. Messier and Beukeboom from the Oilers to the New York Rangers for Bernie Nicholls,Steven Rice, and Louie DeBrusk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two or less Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Here's one I had complete forgotten about: Buffalo Sabres acquire Michal Grosek Darryl Shannon Winnipeg Jets acquire Craig Muni 1996 1st round pick (#24-Daniel Briere) How about, moving Grosek for Doug Gilmour and JP Dumont? Very lopsided... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Mike Peca for Tim Connolly and Taylor Pyatt, On paper, there are much worse trades than this one, but for me it marked the day Darcy told us all : "We no longer believe in grit and hard work, but are going to be a smallish finesse team, full of one-dimensional underachievers". Peca held out for a year, seeking (what I think was a bit of an over)payment of $4M/year. It wasn't a disrespect for size- both Connolly and Pyatt are bigger than Peca. I won't dispute the grit point, but then again, those skilled players gave us quite a run post-lockout. I don't think the '06-'07 teams were full of one-dimensional underachievers. Edited July 10, 2014 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Anders Hakansson for Kevin Stevens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHawerchuk10 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 That was tecnically the trade. For all intents & purposes it was Ruuttu & 4th round pick (Daze) for Hasek. Outside of being a lopsided trade, this was the most blurred trade of all time. Very few people remember it was really Christian Ruuttu traded for Hasek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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