LGR4GM Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 Either of the Sams will do just fine but what happens if Florida passes on Ekblad do u field offers from Edmonton or Calgary. I wouldn't trade down past 4. I'm not sold on the german. Tim Murray "Hey Oilers, your defense is awful. How about you give us #3 and your 2nd in 2015 and we will give you #2. If not, we are drafting Ekblad." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 After reading the article on Ho-Sang and watching his highlight video, I'm all for taking him with our first pick in the second round if he is still there, and wouldn't even mind trading up for him. Kid has sick, sick skill and is explosive. If we came out of the draft with draisaitl/reinhart and ho-sang I'd be thrilled. We can afford to take a chance on this guy with all the picks and prospects we have. I want a guy who can put an opponent on their heels with his skating. I know getting bigger is a focus, but we've already addressed that with a few trades and we can't take big guys with skating issues every pick, or guys that project to be solid 3rd to 4th liners. I'm all for taking a guy that has top end skill but definitely a risk especially this year. I've also read a few article on him in the last few days. Is his attitude really that bad? Does he have an ego problem? I'd love to have a player that loves to get pushed, that can take being constructively criticized. But is his push back really that bad to the point where he might end up going in the 2nd round of a weak draft while some people say he has the talent of a McDavid? I don't like players that become a distraction, one where the ego gets in the way of the team and winning. Is that the kind of player he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 If Ekblad goes #1 and the Sabres pick #2 and don't trade it throughout the day, I'd be willing to bet it's Bennett. Charity wager? Again, I know nothing.....just psy-ops. I will do that. I personally like Bennett but I'm pretty sure it's not. You choose the terms. My charity will be make a wish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabre snipe Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I've also read a few article on him in the last few days. Is his attitude really that bad? Does he have an ego problem? I'd love to have a player that loves to get pushed, that can take being constructively criticized. But is his push back really that bad to the point where he might end up going in the 2nd round of a weak draft while some people say he has the talent of a McDavid? I don't like players that become a distraction, one where the ego gets in the way of the team and winning. Is that the kind of player he is? That's the question...we can't answer as well as any GMs can, but this guy could end up being the biggest steal of the draft-- he has that much talent. Could see a team like Pittsburgh taking him and him flourishing. I definitely could see some old school dominant gms, owners, scouts whatever getting rubbed the wrong way by him because he isn't showing them enough respect, but if he can play and learn they need to look past that. Put him on the wing after getting a reinhart (safe pick) and that's potentially 2/3 of a talented 1st or second line for the next decade. Get mcdavid or eichel next year and look out. Certainly worth the risk of using a second round pick on him IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I will do that. I personally like Bennett but I'm pretty sure it's not. You choose the terms. My charity will be make a wish I like the bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 SABRES 2014 DRAFT BLOG SABRESPROSPECTS.COM'S TOP 30 | DRAFT BLOG | VIDEO FEATURES | WRITTEN FEATURES | NEWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 25, 2014 Report Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'd like to use stafford Stewart and our 3 seconds and get as many 1sts next year as possible out of it ALL OF THE MCDAVIDS. ALL OF THEM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 48 hours. Yeah, I'm tired of 95 pages of speculation. Ready for the actual event. I really don't have any idea which of the 3 forwards we're going to take at #2, but I trust that our scouting staff knows more than any of us on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) I still cannot understand why people want Sam Bennett? Out of the three forwards, he chipped in the least, on his team's goals...at something like 74%, or somewhere around there. Whereas Draisaitl contributed on 91%, and Reinhart at 84%...and they say Draisaitl played on the weakest team. (I still want Reinhart...you cannot deny pedigree and a kid who grew up around the NHL.) The other way I look at it is...we need skill, not "potential"...we have plenty of that in the organization, and we're still waiting to see it. Feel free to try and sell me on Bennett, though? But to me, and plenty others I have heard/read, he is the 4th best prospect, behind the Ekblad, Reinhart and Draisaitl. *EDIT: I forgot where I saw those "contribution percentages," but the numbers are pretty close and in the correct order. One more thing...from everything I have read, I am absolutely sold on taking chances on Ho-Sang and DeAngelo, especially if they are available with any of the Sabres' second round picks. The talent is undeniable with those two. It's worth the risk for a team like Buffalo, without a doubt. Edited June 26, 2014 by Bob Malooga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I'm also on the reinhart bandwagon but that interview with I think central scouting was very interesting. They said Bennett was ranked first on their list and sounded like it wasn't even really close. Interesting that they had him also ranked first on their midterm rankings and said it was a closer decision on the midterm ranking then what ended up as their final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) I'm also on the reinhart bandwagon but that interview with I think central scouting was very interesting. They said Bennett was ranked first on their list and sounded like it wasn't even really close. Interesting that they had him also ranked first on their midterm rankings and said it was a closer decision on the midterm ranking then what ended up as their final. Yeah, like I said, some have him #4 and others have him at #1-#2...it will certainly be interesting. I am happy the NHL draft is starting to get more and more attention. I've always been an NFL and NHL draft nut, but it seems the NHL is growing more and more every year, which is great. I do know this though...if the NHL screws Buffalo out of McDavid or Eichel next year, by changing the lottery...I'll never watch a game again. Lol. (Last year I started to get into the NHL draft, like I've always been with the NFL draft...more than a "casual" spectator.) Edited June 26, 2014 by Bob Malooga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabre snipe Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) I still cannot understand why people want Sam Bennett? Out of the three forwards, he chipped in the least, on his team's goals...at something like 74%, or somewhere around there. Whereas Draisaitl contributed on 91%, and Reinhart at 84%...and they say Draisaitl played on the weakest team. (I still want Reinhart...you cannot deny pedigree and a kid who grew up around the NHL.) The other way I look at it is...we need skill, not "potential"...we have plenty of that in the organization, and we're still waiting to see it. Feel free to try and sell me on Bennett, though? But to me, and plenty others I have heard/read, he is the 4th best prospect, behind the Ekblad, Reinhart and Draisaitl. *EDIT: I forgot where I saw those "contribution percentages," but the numbers are pretty close and in the correct order. One more thing...from everything I have read, I am absolutely sold on taking chances on Ho-Sang and DeAngelo, especially if they are available with any of the Sabres' second round picks. The talent is undeniable with those two. It's worth the risk for a team like Buffalo, without a doubt. I really don't care who we draft as long as Murray gets who he wants ill trust the decision. But Bennett had the highest points per 60 minutes average out of everyone (by a good amount), is younger and is only in his second season compared to reinharts third. he is also a more explosive skater and is a relentless attacker. Those are a few reasons I could see Bennett being the pick, but I'll admit I don't know jack and would rather trust the general consensus rankings that have reinhart first haha Oh and I agree with u 100% about ho sang in fact I advocated the same earlier today in this thread Edited June 26, 2014 by sabre snipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I will do that. I personally like Bennett but I'm pretty sure it's not. You choose the terms. My charity will be make a wish Cool beans. As long as Ekblad goes #1 and the Sabres make and keep the pick at #2. If not then no wager. Bennett vs. Field $40 Erie County SPCA for me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Cool beans. As long as Ekblad goes #1 and the Sabres make and keep the pick at #2. If not then no wager. Bennett vs. Field $40 Erie County SPCA for me..... Field here. Count me in. I'm taking Leon cause I can't spell his last name. Oh ya I remember, ‘The Deutschland Dangler’ And in honor Doug Allen, I'll name the City Mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Field here. Count me in. I'm taking Leon cause I can't spell his last name. Oh ya I remember, ‘The Deutschland Dangler’ And in honor Doug Allen, I'll name the City Mission. By the way...only betting Webster for now....although after sorting through a few more things, I should probably bet the world. By the way...only betting Webster for now....although after sorting through a few more things, I should probably bet the world. OK....beerme1.....you're on too. That's it for now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 OK....beerme1.....you're on too. That's it for now though. Cool. My feeling for Leon from GMTM is that there may be a Sam type available next year but a big body center with like this is a rare breed and you take them when you can. Worst case scenario we are right back in this position next year. But I'm sure I know less than you! :P Thanks for taking the bet for a good cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey 16m McKenzie: #FlaPanthers have three legitimate offers for No. 1 pick. Right now, Dale Tallon is more likely to use the pick though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey 16m McKenzie: #FlaPanthers have three legitimate offers for No. 1 pick. Right now, Dale Tallon is more likely to use the pick though. One of the offers has to be from the Oilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 48 hours. I love the speculation and hype. But yeah, I'm ready. I still cannot understand why people want Sam Bennett? Out of the three forwards, he chipped in the least, on his team's goals...at something like 74%, or somewhere around there. Whereas Draisaitl contributed on 91%, and Reinhart at 84%...and they say Draisaitl played on the weakest team. (I still want Reinhart...you cannot deny pedigree and a kid who grew up around the NHL.) The other way I look at it is...we need skill, not "potential"...we have plenty of that in the organization, and we're still waiting to see it. Feel free to try and sell me on Bennett, though? But to me, and plenty others I have heard/read, he is the 4th best prospect, behind the Ekblad, Reinhart and Draisaitl. *EDIT: I forgot where I saw those "contribution percentages," but the numbers are pretty close and in the correct order. One more thing...from everything I have read, I am absolutely sold on taking chances on Ho-Sang and DeAngelo, especially if they are available with any of the Sabres' second round picks. The talent is undeniable with those two. It's worth the risk for a team like Buffalo, without a doubt. Sam Bennett is really good. Did that work? Seriously, all three of the top forwards have 70-90 point potential and similar ceilings. All three are good kids, very competitive and skilled, with the ability to make plays. Sam Bennett is the fastest and the most abrasive and the youngest. His fire and speed make him the most entertaining to watch, and he's shown the most growth this year. He's also the most likely to take stupid penalties and the weakest physically — the furthest away from the NHL. (He's still got a teenager's body, but has the frame to get stronger.) His downside is gritty, 40-50 point third line centre who helps on both special teams. His upside is a quicker Doug Gilmour. All three will be good. In Tim we have to trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Cool. My feeling for Leon from GMTM is that there may be a Sam type available next year but a big body center with like this is a rare breed and you take them when you can. Worst case scenario we are right back in this position next year. But I'm sure I know less than you! :P Thanks for taking the bet for a good cause. I know nuting. Just reading public tealeaves as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 One of the offers has to be from the Oilers. Agreed, wonder if the others are Toronto and Vancouver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 First 3 rounds mock from The Hockey Writers This is not an attempt to rank prospects. This is mere a guesstimate at what teams might choose if they were to draft today based on weighing out best player available with team need and past experiences at the draft table, with an obvious dose of influence from my personal thoughts. #2 - Leon Draisaitl, "C with size and skill, underrated shot, great playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Minn could be a trade partner for Murray to get back into round 1 on Friday. @Russostrib #mnwild GM Chuck Fletcher said depending on what's there at 18, he's not adverse to move back and pick up multiple picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 6-26 JOHN SHANNON OF SPORTSNET TALKS DRAFT ON WGR <10:09> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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