FogBat Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WannabeGM Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Link Love him or hate him, any owner who puts it all on the line to win each year, gets my respect. RIP George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 He always seemed to step up big time and donate a ton of money to charity any time there was a disaster or something else along those lines. That's what should get respect long before whether his team won or lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static70 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 RIP George. He ran his team with a passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Wings Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 He always seemed to step up big time and donate a ton of money to charity any time there was a disaster or something else along those lines. That's what should get respect long before whether his team won or lost. Well said, shrader. He'll always be remembered for his regime with the Yankees, but he contributed to many good causes off the field, as well. A legend that will be missed, love him or hate him. RIP, Mr. Steinbrenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I'm hearing the voice of Larry David. "Chaos does not work for the New York Yankees!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Dance Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 RIP George. He ran his team with a passion. Very true...love him or hate him, he did care about his team and made sure they had what they needed to do well. (Are you listening, Tommy G.?) Be at peace, George - you earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 WOW!!! Double WOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 He was a great owner, I wonder if his kids can carry on the legacy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 George Costanza did more for his image of late than George did for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbossy Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Interesting Kelly article. http://www.wben.com/Jim-Kelley---Steinbrenner--the-Buffalo-Connection/7680231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Dance Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Interesting Kelly article. http://www.wben.com/...nection/7680231 Kelly nailed my opinion exactly... sports (especially Buffalo sports) IS just a business. If we could only get an ownership group made up of Perreault, LaFontaine and Peca... Those guys would give the Sabres the tools they need to succeed. (Like Super Mario did in Penguinland...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 Interesting Kelly article. http://www.wben.com/Jim-Kelley---Steinbrenner--the-Buffalo-Connection/7680231 As usual, Jim Kelley wrote a pretty good article. One thing he didn't mention was that Steinbrenner also was pushing pretty hard for the Rich bid to be accepted when Colorado and Miami got in. Considering the way the economics of baseball have gone, it's probably for the better that Buffalo didn't get a ball team at that time. I don't think an expansion team could have succeeded in the '90's. And had Buffalo not torn down Offerman a few years earlier, Steinbrenner's push for Buffalo to get the Expos probably would have actually succeeded. And THAT team would most likely have been successful (at the gate at a minimum). Buffalo was a serious baseball town in the 60's and 70's. Imagine how much moreso it could have been if there had been a team there. And that would have put Buffalo in the rare 4 major club when Buffalo added the Sabres and Braves in '70. RIP George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 14, 2010 Report Share Posted July 14, 2010 When Taro posts in the summertime, it's like seeing your first lightning bug, getting a perfect cantaloupe and enjoying a Blizzard all rolled into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexLuthor871 Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Interesting Kelly article. http://www.wben.com/Jim-Kelley---Steinbrenner--the-Buffalo-Connection/7680231 Re, this article it wasn't mentioned here but (I believe right before Steinbrenner bought the Yankees), the Bronx Bombers were seriously considering moving into an Astrodome-type stadium that was going to build in Lancaster; can someone fill me in on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Kelly nailed my opinion exactly... sports (especially Buffalo sports) IS just a business. If we could only get an ownership group made up of Perreault, LaFontaine and Peca... Those guys would give the Sabres the tools they need to succeed. (Like Super Mario did in Penguinland...) Why do people always think that former players would always make the perfect owners or front office guys? If those guys somehow got ownership of the team, it would quickly fold or be sold elsewhere because of insufficient funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Why do people always think that former players would always make the perfect owners or front office guys? If those guys somehow got ownership of the team, it would quickly fold or be sold elsewhere because of insufficient funds. You don't know that for sure. Mario made it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 You don't know that for sure. Mario made it work. Mario was flirting with money problems until the team hit back to back gold with Malkin-Crosby. Remember, Mario was completely ready to sell the team to Balsillie before the league got in the way of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Dance Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Why do people always think that former players would always make the perfect owners or front office guys? If those guys somehow got ownership of the team, it would quickly fold or be sold elsewhere because of insufficient funds. Actually, I don't. My point was that the Sabres need an owner with a passion to win hockey games. We don't seem to have that now. I was only saying that these former Sabres all had a passion for winning. I know Mario had money issues prior to Crosby-Malkin (and some of it was related to Pittsburgh not wanting to build a new arena, which they now have). And as for hitting gold with Crosby and Malkin, how come the Sabres never seem to have that kind of luck? We got Gil Perreault with a lucky spin of the wheel in 1970, and since then our luck in drafts has ranged from moderately successful to atrocious. We don't seem to be able to identify and draft the guys who wind up being the superstars in the NHL. (Miller is the current exception to that). Winning comes from the top down - if the Sabres had an owner with a Steinbrenner-like passion to win, the GM and scouting staff would HAVE to perform better or they'd be gone. But, we have what we have and right now, that is depressing me more than I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Actually, I don't. My point was that the Sabres need an owner with a passion to win hockey games. We don't seem to have that now. I was only saying that these former Sabres all had a passion for winning. I know Mario had money issues prior to Crosby-Malkin (and some of it was related to Pittsburgh not wanting to build a new arena, which they now have). And as for hitting gold with Crosby and Malkin, how come the Sabres never seem to have that kind of luck? We got Gil Perreault with a lucky spin of the wheel in 1970, and since then our luck in drafts has ranged from moderately successful to atrocious. We don't seem to be able to identify and draft the guys who wind up being the superstars in the NHL. (Miller is the current exception to that). Winning comes from the top down - if the Sabres had an owner with a Steinbrenner-like passion to win, the GM and scouting staff would HAVE to perform better or they'd be gone. But, we have what we have and right now, that is depressing me more than I can say. OSP was obsessed with winning -- the Governor's Mansion in Albany. The Sabres were a small means to that end. Once his political ambitions fell through, and he took his toys to Boca, hockey took a back seat. If I can think of any more clichés, I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Actually, I don't. My point was that the Sabres need an owner with a passion to win hockey games. We don't seem to have that now. I was only saying that these former Sabres all had a passion for winning. I know Mario had money issues prior to Crosby-Malkin (and some of it was related to Pittsburgh not wanting to build a new arena, which they now have). And as for hitting gold with Crosby and Malkin, how come the Sabres never seem to have that kind of luck? We got Gil Perreault with a lucky spin of the wheel in 1970, and since then our luck in drafts has ranged from moderately successful to atrocious. We don't seem to be able to identify and draft the guys who wind up being the superstars in the NHL. (Miller is the current exception to that). Winning comes from the top down - if the Sabres had an owner with a Steinbrenner-like passion to win, the GM and scouting staff would HAVE to perform better or they'd be gone. But, we have what we have and right now, that is depressing me more than I can say. Why aren't they lucky enough to have the first pick overall year after year? Not drafting a Crosby or Malkin has absolutely nothing to do with the abilities of the scouting department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Just a reminder that the Sabres and Pens had the same number of balls in the Crosby lottery. Bad luck, yes. Part of the ensuing problem is that a GM like Ray Shero has three balls and Darce and Phil Kessel keep winning the same bar bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 Just a reminder that the Sabres and Pens had the same number of balls in the Crosby lottery. Bad luck, yes. Part of the ensuing problem is that a GM like Ray Shero has three balls and Darce and Phil Kessel keep winning the same bar bet. It doesn't change your little joke at all, but Craig Patrick drafted Crosby, not Shero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 It doesn't change your little joke at all, but Craig Patrick drafted Crosby, not Shero. I knew you'd like that, a connoisseur of Kessel jokes. I probably knew Shero wasn't the GM then, but maybe not; still, the word "ensuing" covers me, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 15, 2010 Report Share Posted July 15, 2010 I knew you'd like that, a connoisseur of Kessel jokes. I probably knew Shero wasn't the GM then, but maybe not; still, the word "ensuing" covers me, I think. Have I ever shared my theory here that Phil's little brother Blake who plays for UNH was actually born from what was removed from Phil during that surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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