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It's an important year for Rochester. They need to be better, much better. Most of the kids GMTM drafted are still playing juniors or NCAA, but some are old enough now to play pro, so it will be interesting to see how guys like Cornel, Karabacek, Olofsson transition to north american pro hockey.

I think 95 points and playoffs is a bit of a stretch for this team yet. They're getting better, but teams will start to take them more seriously, meaning they won't start their backup tendies, etc... That will have a negative impact. I could see them floating around within shooting distance of 8th, but likely landing somewhere around 9-11th with a 5-10 point improvement, somewhere around 85-90 points.

What sickens me is the idea that Vesey is putting off his decision just to get more passes from Eichel in summer beer league.

I've had the sex talk with both of them when they were ready and asking questions about it, both were around 8-9 iirc. Anyway, yeah they understand about respecting women, respect all people in general. At the time of the P Kane stuff, they didn't understand the concept of rape, like why would somebody do that to someone else? Instead of getting into the details and legalities of what constitutes rape, I left it as.... a girl was accusing P Kane of forcing himself on her when she didn't want to have sex. My kids look up to P Kane as a hockey player (not a role model), they're fascinated by what he does on the ice, so you don't really want to ruin that for them, but life sucks sometimes so you deal with it.

MacKinnon plays a style similar to E. Kane where he tries to do too much on his own. It worked well his first season, but teams figured him out and now he'll have to adjust and utilize his teammates better than he does currently. Can he make that adjustment?

My boys are 10 and 12. As a parent it's difficult to explain what's going on with these guys in terms they'll understand while keeping it PG. The E. Kane stuff my kids don't care about, but the P. Kane stuff from last summer was a challenge to explain to them.

That's the million dollar question.

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Over analysis is an offseason ritual. Need to keep this thread moving forward.

What I think happened is Vesey never really wanted to play for NSH, but since they were the only team who could sign him, he lead them on as if he was going to sign. At some point after the trade deadline he decided he was just gonna wait it out until mid Aug. So to save face, his agent came out and made up some story about what they told NSH back before the deadline. Instead of pointing fingers and starting a he said she said issue, Vesey should've just been honest about having a change of heart. I think it's dirty pool, and now talk about second contact and such before he even plays a game is a bad sign of his character and what he values IMO.

There's a difference between spinning something and flat out lying... well maybe unless you're a politician. And it's not just Poile, it's Fenton and his staff. They're an upstanding franchise who is know to take very good care of it's players. I find it extremely difficult to believe he's lying about it. They're lack of activity at the deadline also lends to thr idea Vesey was coming on board. If they knew he wasn't gonna sign they would've traded him at the deadlibe for playoff assets. It doesn't add up, where there's smoke, there's fire.

Who would you trust? An established well respect GM who's leading a successful franchise? Or a 23 year old kid who has never played a game in the league? Poile has no history of jerking around players, far from it. Vesey has no history.

Well if his behavior is any sign of things to come, what happens when he's in positon where he's asked to make a personal sacrifice for the betterment of the team? Shot blocking, killing penalties, playing a system, backchecking, etc... if his primary concern is staying healthy so he can put up numbers for his next contract he'll quickly get a reputation as a soft player unwilling to do the dirty work which makes a team successful.

He should've signed with NSH. He flat out lied to them about his intentions. They're a contender, why didnt he sign with a winning successful franchise about to go on a long playoff run with a good chance at winning a Cup? It sounds like he cares very little about winning and very much so about personal financial gain. I wouldn't want that attitude permeating throughout my locker room.

Once in a lifetime? He'll bee an UFA several times in his careeer. UFA status is a privilege in the national league. I do place some blame on the NHL for this. It seems the fair thing to do would've been to place him back in the draft after he completed his college career.

It's like you go to a buffet and somebody there offers you a cheeseburger before the buffet officially opens. You might love cheeseburgers, but you'd still wait a few minutes for the buffett to open up so you can see what else they have. And you might end up having a cheeseburger anyway. That said, he would've been better off not sayung anything about top 6, looking at rosters and see and contract numbers. It makes him look like a spoiled little kid who cries when he doesnt get exactly what he wants for Christmas. It's a bad reflection of his character.

I see your point. I just don't think hes damaged goods at 26. If he averages 20g a year for thr next 10, he still gets over 500g. Chances are he finishes close to 600g, which puts him top 20 of all time.

He's 26 and already has over 300g and over 500 points. He'll be a first ballot hall of famer no question. Vesey is only 3 years younger with 0 career NHL minutes.

Because it's a game, a game that kids play, so they naturally look up to them.

Stamkos is a future hall of famer who earned that privilege, Vesey hasn't even sniffed Stamkos's jockstrap.

Ice Girls, The Sabrette's? Swim Suit night bring back the Earl of Bud increase width of ice surface by 5ft to 200x90 fly Jimmy Vesey in on my private jet just to tell him to stop being a whiny little bitch

We also have Matt Moulson and nobody else does.

Yeah, I live in Orange County. Played Oak Creek today, The Crossings tomorrow, have a friend from Buffalo who lives in Phoenix now in town visiting. I'll tell your Dad you say Hi if I see him!

There were no plans to stream it last year until fans complained enough they decided to stream it the day before or day of, iirc. I'll be playing golf down in Carlsbad tomorrow so I'll miss it, hopefully it's available ondemand as well.