Turbo44

Would love this but he’d only be traded if we aren’t in the playoff hunt

GM speak - why would he play his hand by saying, we’re still looking to trade for a goalie

Yep, especially with the high probability that a contending team has a goalie injury. Only issue with waiting until then is if Helly doesn’t want to be in Winnipeg or if team is bad and his stats are his normal great stats

Yep makes sense though I think stillman would be claimed. Bryson would be the one sent down anyway

Interesting

Fair. He might be claimed but who cares

Copley/Talbot isn’t a good tandem, it they’re currently 1.5m over the cap so It would be a struggle to fit Hellebuyck’s 6.1 in. If we’re in on Hele, I think we’re basically bidding against ourselves. KA knows this so hopefully he’s been deriving a less costly deal?? Winnipeg is definitely in a tear down rebuild stage, right? If so, Keeping Hellebuyck in his last year makes no sense unless they just wait until the trade deadline to trade him. 2024 1st and a top prospect (Östlund or Rosen) would have to be enticing to them?

Fking Boston is never bad business. Bad karma, probably with all the contracts in the upcoming years KA will have to deal with

Yep - for Swayman - I would love it but doesn’t seem KA’s ammo. But then you’d have 4 nhl goalies so trading UPL would have to be done

You are correct. Given the current roster construction, KA can’t be done. Common sense says it makes no sense as is

I think NJ dropped out of Helleybuyck and the kings signed somebody already. Only competition for Helleybuyck really is Winnipeg keeping him. Honestly though I’m not sure if KA has interest in him

I think they trade a defenseman, probably Joker as unfortunately Bryson is worthless. I think they surprise us with a name UFA forward shortly and trade Oloffson Trading for a goalie? I’m not sure it’ll happen? I could see them thinking that the upgrades of the UFA defensive defenseman will help the goalies but this would be a dangerous gamble. Interesting trade for a goalie, not really discussed is with Boston. They’re in desperate need of cap space. I could see them trading one of their goalies to us for UPL and a prospect.

I’m honestly not sure what winnioeg’s needs are. If these players would even be attractive to them, though Rosen would be. I wouldn’t hate using the 2024 1st too as I’m expecting that pick to be in the 20s and our prospect pool is already tops in the league, or close

I don’t agree. Too many rostered players. One could be eliminated by sending Comrie to Rochester but 9 NHL defensemen is too many and KA never talks like he did about a player (Oloffson) without following through by trading him

Good point, and his roster spot would also be replaced with an entry level contract (say Savoie for instance) at just under $1m all in all, KA’s approach here of signing too many NHL contracts is puzzling unless trades are coming. The takeaway here is we could afford a Helleybuyck/Gibson type goalie via the proper trade and still have plenty of cap left if we wanted to get one of the top remaining UFA forwards: Kane, Tarasenko, Tatar, Bertuzzi or Dumba for D. in saying that I don’t think KA will be allowed to spend to the cap ceiling

I don’t think there’s an UFA goalie worth it to sign, and certainly not for a price of $4m. I see Jones out there but really don’t want him. any new goalie probably comes via a trade

Currently we’re at 5.8 over with 2 extra NHL contacts than permitted. So let’s say we do the following trade: UPL, Oloffson, Joker and Rosen for Hellebuyck. That’s 6.1 of money coming in and 8.1 going out. We’re now at the correct amount of nhl rostered players and have 7.9m in cap space. After we send comrie down to Rochester we’ll have $10m. If we trade for Gibson instead of Helleybuyck using similar players, the cap would be at +9.6m. we’re very healthy cap wise and being over the rostered player limit something has to be in the works trade wise for a goalie.

I would include Rosen or our 2024 1st (hope it’s a late one) Rosen, UPL, Joker for Hellebuyck. They may need two goalies, so they can have Comrie if they want him too

Correct MAF makes much more sense. MAF for UPL and Joker

Levi is our new goalie. Our new 1B will be MAF

Trade Rosen, joker, Oloffson and UPL for Hellebuyck. A lot of problems solved with a trade like this. Winnipeg needs bodies too

I think he’s a great 5/6/7 playing 11 minutes a night.

Agreed. Are you willing to go 5 and $6.5 per for him? Is he worth it especially considering you’re probably giving up a 2024 1st for him. I wouldn’t and I don’t think KA will either. Just sign gudas as a UFA, 3 years $5 per, maybe $6

Fortsen, who typically doesn’t BS, said he’ll end up being the best player in the draft. That’s saying a lot given who went #1

He’ll grow another inch or two. Fortsen said his Dad is 6’3” his mom 5’10” he very well can end up being 6’3”