Derrico
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I've got that feeling he's also coming.
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The Cap went up from 39 million to 69 million in only 10 years. It's just the cost of doing business now. $8 million today is equivalent to $6 million type players three years ago.
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My parents house is considerably nicer than mine but I paid $10,000 more for my house 15 years later. Does that make my house better than my parents? Back when Sidney Crosby signed his long term deal in 2012 - Great players got paid 8.7 Million Now Toews and Kane signed recently for over 10 million per year. The cost for an elite elite player is 10+ million per year. I don't need to use a bunch of comparables signed years ago to set the market. Paul Stastney set the market last year at $7 million for that quality of a player. If Stastney can get $7 Million then ROR can get 7.5 to 8 next year.
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Salaries paid =/= quality of player!! That's the point that you keep bringing up I don't agree with. Was Ville Leino the 50th best NHL player or whatever he was based on his contract?
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Who said he's a top 30 player? This started as a top 3 forward (top 90 player).
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Superdraft - where would every NHL player get picked today?
Derrico replied to SDS's topic in The Aud Club
I scanned the list twice to make sure because I thought he would have already been gone. -
As Lloyd says "So you're telling me there's a chance?!"
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I don't know if he's top 30, but he's definitely top 90, probably top 50 even. Look below for some examples of other top line players that were moved. Don't even get me started on what Seguin was moved for. Edit, and now more examples from dudacek. Yes I think he's a top 50 player. Yes I think he can be acquired for a package that does not include Risto/Bogo.
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I think the board would say replace Risto/Bogo with Zadorov/Pysyk. If you make the assumption his trade value is depressed based on the contract then you don't go Risto/Bogo.
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I love the thought of ROR on this team but if Risto or Bogo are part of the deal then I'll pass.
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Superdraft - where would every NHL player get picked today?
Derrico replied to SDS's topic in The Aud Club
Colorado will take Seth Jones -
So Babcock is done talking to teams and will now sit with his family to make the decision. Sabres feel they've done enough to convince him to join the organization. You guys optimistic? I'm about 50/50 right now.
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If they know ROR wants 8 per and ownership can't pay it then they will want something but I'm not sure what they're bargaining chips look like and hence keep some of our better players and prospects out of the deal.
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You suggesting Ennis for ROR? I don't know if I want to go there. Grigo doesn't have much but I figured max value would be reuniting him with Roy.
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Hahahhaaha well I say no and move on at that point. But if the owner knew they couldn't pay him and want the best return (after learning from stastny situation) would 21, 31, Grigio and pysyk get it done ( only if an extension was already in place)?
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Good question on what would avs want. As far as keeping him, it's not cap space that is the problem but rather spending to the cap. Remember those problems we use to have? Several teams still have them. Hence stastny moving on.
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To me it comes down to what the assets are. Otherwise yes.
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Took you much quicker to explain what I was getting at haha.
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My real estate appraisal career has me immediately looking at comparables to look at ROR worth (as liger first wanted) and therefore I looked to the most recent data. I looked at the 2014 July 1st signing period as that is like the real estate spring (hot) market. The only somewhat big name to sign was Paul stastny who signed a 4 year deal worth 7 million per year. Well as in any year (aside from 2008 to 2010) the market, and cost of doing business goes up every year. So in my eyes, the best comparable is the most recent which is stastny who is also a centre and also played on Colorado prior to the signing. Stastny was 28 at the time of the signing, ROR is currently 24. Stastny was taken 44th overall in 2005, ROR was taken 33rd in 2009. They're both 6 feet tall. ROR plays a much stronger defensive game, stastny has slightly better point totals (although both have only had one season with more than 25 goals). Like your house, you look at what your neighbour got and expect more for yours two years later. Comparable player salaries from more than two years prior are almost irrelevant, especially considering the trend in nhl player salaries. If stastny got 7 in 2014, ROR is at least worth 7.5 to 8 beginning in 2016. I agree that we have to manage the cap to ensure money is available for our stars when the time comes to pay them. However, in a salary cap era, I think it's also prudent to bring in some high cost talented players to really go for it while your stars are making reasonable salaries on entry level deals. Once Eichel starts make 10 plus mil per season it's hard to afford talent around him. Let's bring in big talent now while we can afford it.
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Superdraft - where would every NHL player get picked today?
Derrico replied to SDS's topic in The Aud Club
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Superdraft - where would every NHL player get picked today?
Derrico replied to SDS's topic in The Aud Club
Screw off whisky I wanted him lol. I'm about to head out for dinner and drinks. If I'm not back before my pick I'll pull a taro and pick when I can but keep the draft going. -
I'm not as savy as most with the cap. We should be able to keep costs down for the first few years can't we? How long is the rookie deal? It's 7 or 8 years before ufa isn't it? I'd structure it 5 or 6 as the young guns should be fairly controllable for that length correct? I agree with blue that risto will be the first priority and I don't want him anywhere near free agency.
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I think age is also important. If I feel like I'm overpaying a bit for a player I want it to be a guy that's had a few years in the league to prove himself but is also just starting to hit his prime. ROR age would fit in well with this young core. You know year 6 or whatever of the deal you still should be getting value for what you paid.
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Paul stastney signed last July 1 a 4 year deal worth 7 mil per year. If ROR makes it to July 1 2016 hes getting 8 mil per. ROR is worth at least a mil more than stastney. If you sign him a year in advance maybe you get it done for 7.5 per but that's just squabbling at that point. ROR will get paid and he's the exact type of player you pay it to.
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Did you only watch him once?