Thorny

Adams getting an extension positioned as “one more kick at the can, this time (this, this, THIS time) for realz, is at least as likely as him getting canned

And without any action from him to the contrary there’s nothing left

Exactly. Well said. I’ve mentioned it a million times - the Sabres’ players aren’t stupid. They can SEE the lack of accountability. They understand the franchise doesn’t want to measure itself by way of results the sabres aren’t unsalvageable “even if they fire Adams”, that’s backwards the sabres are *revealed to be* unsalvageable because they won’t fire him. They won’t express accountability there’s hope for the Pegula that does can Adams right now. But if Pegula canned Adams right now he wouldn’t be the Terry we know and love, at all I’ll keep hoping for the canning of the GM, for some element of competency to be revealed in him, because it’s all we have “well if we fire him it won’t make a difference” has always, always been a reflection of a defence mechanism to the idea one knows he won’t be Even the acknowledgement the GM hasn’t been good enough would be a chasm of improvement from what we have seen - we are that low. I ask anyone if the sabres are in a position to deny even one modicum of hope to the fans.

If even in the spring.

To the bold: a great point, and the answer is a resounding “no”, of course. Adams should be fired if you believe in accountability to results. As for the rest, the same stuff I (and for some of it, others too) was vehemently railing on to increasing apparent annoyance, as a warning, all offseason long: -“sabres had enough scoring” to what, finish bottom 10 again? -JJ Peterka loss was, as always, worked over time in a frenzy into “addition by subtraction”. Only his faults mattered once we dealt him -we could simply “choose” to play better D while retaining offence cause players would just “pick up the slack” up front. Shell game thinking need not apply - players weren’t “injury prone”, they were just, coincidentally, hurt all the time - oh the GM made a ton of changes! 25.414436 percent of the roster since the start of the LAST year we didn’t make the playoffs. Pay no attention to the fact every team does on the fringe adjustment every year as a function of the league itself. Danforth is our impact addition. - when you don’t acquire good players, you theorize maybe the players we did get will be “harder” to play against. Whatever that means - maybe the Adams set up of requiring 34 consecutive coin flips to go your way isn’t the *best* strategy even if it’s strictly possible!

The takes in this thread lol. I dealt out a lot of red Xs and I still didn’t deal out half as many as I should have

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Consider the ass bit. smart dude. Whoever that is

Is Adams fired yet?

the most salient element however is that Adams deserves to be fired..so he should be fired. Even leaving aside the fact it could be reflective of a change of mindset for Terry, or that he could get lucky with a new hire, or that there literally can’t be someone worse - it at the very least shows some element of accountability. That this element is somehow underplayed well escapes me: THE BIGGEST issue with the sabres is lack of expectation and accountability. That’s what put them in this mess. People keep taking about culture - without a level of accountability that doesn’t exist. Adams is demonstrably bad so he deserves to be fired. “But will the new hire even be better? Terry sucks!” is an elementary level diversion. Of course Terry is the big bad. It does not change the fact that Adams deserves to be fired we learn at like age 5 that “two wrongs don’t make a right.” Avoiding firing Adams cause it “might not make a difference” is bottom of the barrel thinking. He doesn’t deserve to be GM.

Great post. People as a rule seem to have difficulty seeing nuance And this

This place is is so tired of us being right they’ve decided to paint us as the villain. I honestly just feel bad for the fans doing this

Well said

This

Absolutely. This post of yours is one of the few things I don’t Gotta say, I’m quite comfortable with that and frankly I think I’d begin to question my takes if otherwise given borne out track record

I suggest the 4 folks who graciously “agreed” with this should rescind their green check: they added “Eric Staal” as an “advisor” Which of course nullified the spirit of my argument

This is something you saw in an embedded sabres media video?

They should have known better when they didn’t fire Kevyn Adams better, Punch?

You just go off on these poster not the post rants because you can’t stand the fact you can’t stand on merit vs my arguments. It’s just time and time again - “anything we get from Norris beyond nothing is gravy”. Your takes are stinky.

You just tell on yourself with this, because I didn’t do what he’s claiming in his post you have no argument

All managers have to get their owners to sign off on deals - the argument has never been that the GM needs free reign it’s that they can construct a plan that shows results to the tune of them actually building up sway and confidence with regards to the owner - so many fail to grasp that in these relationships the manager ALWAYS knows more about hockey than the owner, one of the biggest components of a GMs job is in fact massaging thst relationship the idea that I have to explain how someone as demonstrably and obviously as poor a communicator as Adams might struggle with this after 6 years is sort of astounding. I mean I legitimately can’t believe I’m wasting time arguing online with MJD still about how Kevyn Adams should be fired regardless of Terry I wasn’t arguing with any of those posters but MJD who constantly intimates it please point out where I attributed it to anyone specifically but him in thread Edit - that’s what I thought

I call my own shot on it because absurdly no one else will - I posted at length regarding how any why this would fail 5 years ago and it happened exactly. Look back to the Eichel posts. When I was on an island. Still am because admitting it sucks, I guess. its not my fault you are constantly on the other side. I truly do not care about your fortune cookie “those who give themselves credit” nonsense. The receipts are there

The island is people that don’t believe Adams deserves to be fired.

“Terry over meddles” is a narrative from 3 years ago. He’s generally absentee - the issue isn’t that he’s micromanaging, it’s that he leaves Adams to his own devices without adequate support both financial and otherwise