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Ya man I mean you took it a little seriously. My point is kinda self explanatory not a rigid data based metric: usually guys you hear called “bottom 6” are guys you’d ideally want on your 4th line, etc no one is calling a true first liner “top 6”. MacKinnon isn’t a “top 6” player my post was a poke about the intricacies and nature of human language and verbiage more so that strictly statistically based So then the statement is wrong regardless: he’s a mid 6er already not by potential the terminology is bad that’s my point. The vagueness of the terminology breeds error by nature

LMAO legit forgot Utah relocated from Arizona

We are on the Richard timeline now

We heard a lot about the good fancy stats of the 4th liners last year too also, miss me with the “middle 6” stuff. It doesn’t really fool anyone, it’s like what people say just to be nice. He’s a third liner might as well call him “top 9” connotations Middle-6 = third liner top-6 = second liner bottom-6 = 4th liner first liner = first liner

Almost assuredly There are also rumblings that waterworld is considered a bad film by some

Not contradictory when you are willingly spending less, spending what you do have the allotment for mistakenly is an even more egregious error

Also it’s weird to have already been here for 5 years Replicates the toxic environment, you say???????

Former players quickly mentioning the commitment to winning is quite the canary in the coal mine

You’ll have to watch this space. I’ll keep an edit. Don’t know if I’ll be able to fine an exact quote but there will be a lot of funny stuff - - - “We have to embrace expectations,” general manager Kevyn Adams said Wednesday as the Sabres opened training camp. “I look at pressure as a privilege.” This was Adams saying they needed to embrace the expectations of making the playoffs, *2 years ago* pReSsUrE iS a PrIvAlEdGe 😂 “When I think about playoffs, our expectation of course is there but, honestly, our expectation is to win the Stanley Cup,” Adams said. “I think our window’s open right now and our goal is to be giving ourselves a chance every single year.” - - - Thought this quote from Friedman provided by dudacek is pretty interesting as it’s not just marek spitballing and Elliot is usually pretty reliable “They’ve talked a lot about this internally, if they don’t go to the playoffs this year, there could be big consequences. Everyone understands there are no excuses this season. ”You’re looking at a lot of other players and you’re saying guys, it’s not good enough to talk about it.”

It’s a poor argument in general. Whether Adams believes the team “can possibly” make the playoffs is far less salient than the question of whether he did everything in his power to ensure the result was as likely as possible if someone wants to argue we don’t deserve the later, the Crest would be ashamed of you I can find it, but I hate that you’ve put me to work

The goal is to field a team that has the possibility of making it after seeing to financial concerns, first. It’s entirely possible for them to believe the team has a chance with them also being fully aware they haven’t maximized the chances of it: that’s the equation

FOMO

Who do you have in mind Looking at remaining available FAs I think the list starts and ends with Roslovic. Tbh that does seem to be a sabres fall back option to a T

Our strength was in futures and we cashed it out to near-non existent results and a below-average roster. What we are left with is like you say an average pipeline, with various strengths and weaknesses, with almost no confidence in their ability to turn that into much of anything this go around when it’s a worse overall organization starting point than last time. My solution? I’m converting the strength to where it should be: converting the below average roster and average pipeline into an average roster with a below average pipeline. 1) winning needs to be the focus, in the now (even just for the sake of salvaging the future!) 2) we will be wanting to work on rehabilitating our pipeline anyways so weakening it some before we do so isn’t the end of the world and if we are better in the now we’ll have the time to do so like I said, keeps coming back to one thing: this team is woefully short at LEAST one futures for current trade. Reconfigure. Bump the roster up to average. Be 16th/32: make the playoffs

It’s a pretty simple process: Adams need only scour the market, and if there’s a market for futures for forwards, keep Byram. If the futures for D market is stronger, and it’s going to be hard to find an available forward, deal Byram for the player and, do your D futures trade and it’s 2 transactions instead of one. It’s really a simple, two-pronged approach. Quite simple. So it will take a miracle, definitely

Also 2x the forwards play so 20-16 isn’t a good ratio anyways

I’d be good with this provided we then package futures for a d-man with the ability to play top 4 - even if it’s sans Byram upside. At least that way we are still seeing one outright upgrade on roster. (Peterka essentially swapped for Holloway, but Byram out the door and 2 new D-men brought in, Kesselring and the one we traded the futures for.) I say “good with it” but realistically was thinking we needed at least one unquestioned upgrade and both F and D. But, at least we’d have something. Imo the rub is that we need to make at least one futures trade: be it for the D man after trading Byram for Holloway in this scenario, or somehow for a F if we keep Byram. Benson - Kulich - Thompson Holloway - Norris - Tuch Zucker - McLeod - Quinn Greenway - Krebs - Doan ..is back to reasonable, provided Dahlin - Futures trade Power - Kesselring Samuelsson - Timmins Kesselring would be an outright upgrade on our second pair and I’d look at this roster and say it’s improved on paper from last year by a bit. Not close to enough, but not as flabbergasting

What could Chevy have even done? You know…aside from make the playoffs 8 times

It’s basically saying with the visual that the only striking/notable difference between the two players is a clear win in Byram’s favour. So dealing him say for Neighbours straight up would be kinda funny work

I should hope so.. if by “over time” you mean “later this season”. Danforth has 64 career nhl points and he’s 32 years old lol. Fledgling Benson (age 20) has 58 points, 6 behind Danforth’s career total. So, don’t don’t put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby

No I didn’t say I liked it more I said today’s is far more embarrassing cause it is

Well,

Thankfully for Adams what we say means sh*t all and all he has the automatic out, whether we like or not not, of being able to shove it in our faces by simply winning oh wait If adams and his defenders are sick of us running up the score, he can, ya know, stop it. but he didn’t. 5 years.