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Ya well mine is memory for detail

Above. Is there stank on my interpretation? You seem to remember me invoking stank more than you do the postings of a much better poster than me in Brawndo He doesn’t even post that much. It’s easy to remember what he says it’s always very salient

One of the saddest realizations I’ve had here is how much more familiar I appear to be about the past postings of others

I dunno. I put stock in what Brawndo said about the wrong people carrying the day behind the scenes. “I’m here, aren’t I?” from Karmanos doesn’t do much to quell that

I think the one area we see size as nearly non-negotiable is in net. There are a multitude of avenues for truly skilled players to “make up the gaps” when small, not so for goalies. At a natural disadvantage they constantly have to deal with that doesn’t come with any added benefits (GT much less about speed than positioning, *especially* the higher the level of play gets) There’s no where to hide in net, no weaknesses to expose with the skills you do have. A small goalie needs to overcome his disadvantage on every play, needs to account for the fact he takes up less of the net naturally, all the time. It almost invariably catches up. Small forwards…much easier path

“Well, I’m under contract” is the least confidence inducing thing one might say in this situation, tbh It’s also a bit ambiguous. When it says “this” season is he referring to 24-25? Is he under contract right now and it’s expiring, or for next year and then it expires, or longer? Edit: have received confirmation he’s under contract through 25-26

Adams will tout this as improvement

Yup. The issue of repairing their relationship with their star players was either well beyond their competence level or they were just too lazy and wanted the easy way out: the long form build was merely a tact to prolong that difficultly, they had no intention of actually doing it

This needs to be posted, I’m sorry I think it’s fair to say the bolded happened

Battled an entire thread 4 years ago about the inevitability of this. How Jack wasn’t a “bad apple”. But a canary in the coal mine rooster come home

Sadly and interestingly, it does feel like things are actually probably worse than we make it seem on this website. We forget that even us negative ones are wildly biased

Because they aren’t trying to win

Then why did you “X” the “in the first place” comment? you love GMKA. It ok. Just admit it A+

I miss the post trade hype

When you put it this way, it’s a miracle Adams is able to put his pants on properly in the morning. Poor guy, I feel bad for him. We are so unlucky! I don’t think it’s fair to say we can accurately or fairly judge his tenure so far. It’s early, very early, he fielded a playoff team if not for getting totally screwed over by Ullmark, and he was behind the 8 ball from day one So many little items. pay no attention to not spending at all for 5 years behind the curtain so many little things! For the life of me I cannot figure out why not prioritizing winning leads to not winning. I just can’t figure it out. What could Kevyn Adams have even done

Ya the only thing we haven’t done is the two things most accurately tied to making the playoffs. Those are the only things! We cut bait too quickly. We need to allow Adams to miss the playoffs double the amount of every current GM, being worse than everyone else for a longer period of time isn’t enough of a sample size No, he fired Botterill because he disagreed with Terry about not spending money that he’s operating at the bequest of the fans is an utter fabrication. Just another attempt to blame the fans framing is too see through. “You know what, we’ve probably honestly only really been bad because Terry feels pressured to please the fans. If he is patient and does it his way, and doesn’t let those angry, impatient fans get in the way, it could work! The only thing we haven’t tried is getting away from the demands of the awful fanbase. The problem with the team, after all.”

Re: Levi there was certainly a level of belief at the time that may have suggested his that while his roster positioning was reflective of being a symptom, the approach to the rest of the roster illustrated how much Cause was in play, too If we were willing to count on him to be a starter, that soon, that unproven, i shudder to think of what may have been expected of him when he was hitting his stride If anyone doubts how much belief there was in him being a very real potential answer in the now, you are probably misremembing the time of hype

Yes, if it’s a complementary goal it’s not THE goal and that is what I am saying was necessary. You aren’t disagreeing with me you are just starting your posts with “no” for some reason My point is precisely that the future goals should be subservient to the goal of right now as until we build the now no future exists a’tall

*So, in the end, a drastic failure of both execution and concept. The proof is in the macro statistical pudding. The 78 point average for 5 seasons, that sort of *drastic* failure (we haven’t just missed we’ve generally missed badly) is the natural result of poor planning AND poor execution. like I always say with the tank, they made their own degree of difficulty for the actual rebuild after the fact way harder by enacting that strategy. Adams refusal to prioritize the now, the “floor”, the unwillingness to put the team in a place reflective of a GM who feels his team MUST make the playoffs, a team with, perhaps, a little standings points breathing ground rather than always being in “if eveything goes right mode”, leads to rosters against the 8 ball with question marks from day 1 that look really bad when they DO fail.

“Believing you can make the playoffs” is NOT the same as making it your priority and this is a distinction I will gladly, continually hammer home. It’s the crucial distinction. I do not care if Adam’s believed the 91 point team would probably make the playoffs the next season. Probably doesn’t scratch the surface of good enough when a THIRTEEN (13) year drought is on the line we, as a fan base, deserve so, so much more than that. Probably isn’t good enough. You folks deserve better you truly do. The team HAD to make the playoffs that year. Let alone this year. it wasn’t THE priority. It’s just what Adams thought would likely happen. As the natural symptom of the unfolding of his long term plan.* Like to win / hate to lose? It wasn’t about NEEDING to make the playoffs. Not at all. We deserved NOTHING less. the FOCUS should have been on playoffs, in 2024, being *the* priority. It was not. And it was not this year either. “Actions speak louder than words” for a reason. Budget spending. Youngest teams. NO FIRINGS. How can one possibly argue there was any form of expectations if no one is accountable to anything?

And that’s not hindsight

Does not matter. It needed to be THE goal. And if you enter into a season as the youngest team in hockey with a bottom 10 pay roll, it cannot be, in good faith, your priority You can call it “missed warning signs” all you want but not everyone missed them I did not miss them I don’t need to change my opinion now because I was right for 5 years: they haven’t prioritized winning in the now since they shipped out Finkle and Einhorn

No, he SHOULD have been on the Dahlin timeline - that was the no brainer that he hasn’t properly addressed the team during this 5 years proves he didn’t believe himself to be A huge portion of his “mistakes” is lack of action The lack of prioritizing winning. The lack of a timeline that includes winning in the now we still doing this ?

Nah he had us on the Levi timeline you are just listing out the components of the roster. Like ya man I know. I don’t need to hear about how the “plan” was to “supplement the roster with picks” ya man my plan is to supplement my material intake with pooping DUDE. it’s year 6. Everyone understands the elementary level mechanics always in operation on all teams - - - we were on the levi timeline Levi isn’t an NHLer and he was LINED UP TO START 3 season ago. Think about this. we were sold Levi. Most bought Levi don’t feel so seen just because you purchased so much of the stock it was an asinine plan by Adams