TrueBlueGED

Unsurprisingly, you ignore the merits of today's information. Scouting is infinitely better than it was back in the 80s and 90s. The days of drafting Daigle #1 are gone.

I think WildCard has bigger feet than Freeman and myself. Maybe bigger hands, too.

Hold on. You can't make an entire argument about hard minutes and then trot out PP time in support. PP time are literally the easiest minutes a player can have! PK time and playing against top players can have a draining effect over the course of a season, sure, but saying it has a cumulative career effect is a whole 'nother animal. I agree on your last point that much of this comes down to the valuation of Reinhart. But I think even even Dudacek would concede at this point it's incredibly unlikely Reinhart emerges as a Selke-caliber center.

It doesn't read like something from somebody with legit credentials. But I don't care. Give me all of the Dahlin hype!

LeBron's usage rate is 31.5 in the regular season, and 32.2 in the playoffs. And of course the Warriors didn't have to try hard all the time, they have 4 all-stars! Totally different compared to what LeBron has done with the Cavs. Again, referencing Flagg, O'Reilly doesn't have to continue to get those minutes. And I still disagree on the substance anyway. I don't think O'Reilly playing Crosby in February 2017 means he'll be worse in February 2021. I think it's also worth mentioning O'Reilly doesn't have a style of play that lends itself to premature degradation. He's not a talented version of Pat Kaleta, flinging his body recklessly at everything on the ice.

I think you're overestimating the difference in the type of minutes LeBron plays in the playoffs versus the regular season. He averages a whopping 3.2 more minutes per game in the playoffs with an additional 1.7 points, 1.5 rebounds, and .1 fewer assists. It's also not for an extended period, it's for ~20 game stretches. LeBron goes hard in the regular season and has carried bad Cavs teams for years. I don't think the playoff runs have a meaningfully larger impact than just 20 more regular season games would have. And all of that is besides the point! You were making the wrong inference from what I said to bolster your argument! Agree or disagree, I demand a retraction!

Ditto.

The series was over as soon as he tied it. The Max goal was a formality. That's the best comeback I have. Take it or leave it :lol:

Maybe, maybe not, but that still wasn't the point I was making with his playoff minutes.

Surely you realize I was talking about the number of minutes LeBron has played, not the difficulty of minutes, right? LeBron's playoff runs have added literal seasons of wear and tear on his body.

If we were to actually do a massive panel survey, I'd imagine we would find that negative plays that result in goals against are infinitely more memorable than missing an open net in the first period. It also doesn't hurt to score a series-clinching goal for a president's trophy team in the subsequent season :lol:

I don't really think that stuff carries over season to season unless the player doesn't take care of himself in the offseason. Major injuries racking up? Sure. But he doesn't have that.

I think Flagg has laid out a strong argument for why O'Reilly can last longer. He's getting brutalized with minutes and putting up 60 points. Ease the minutes and his offensive production can likely sustain itself. And we always have the option of shifting him to wing once Mittelstadt is ready. I consider O'Reilly a great player, and great players tend to defy the aging curve some. And O'Reilly's contract runs him through age 32, so it's not like we're on the hook for his 35+ years. I'm in no hurry to trade Reinhart, and I've been one of his bigger proponents on this board. But betting on him to reach O'Reilly's level is not a good bet.

Dudacek and I agreed on compromise language awhile back! A player peaks offensively around ~26, but their prime is longer than that. All hail Dudacek! :p

But in the hypothetical scenario here, we trade O'Reilly for the same package we could have gotten for Reinhart. By not making up your mind, you run a massive risk of Reinhart being who he has shown to be (a good 45-50 point winger) and no longer have O'Reilly.

The rebuild doesn't have to take the rest of O'Reilly's prime, but valuing Reinhart's age that heavily is a good way to fulfill that particular prophecy.

So find me clear upgrades as alternatives. My point was that "Josefson looked 2% better in camp so he gets the spot since he's earned it with his career" is the worst. Obviously we want better vets than Josefson brought in, but if that's what we're left with when camp opens, it should be the vet plug who has to earn the spot. That's the point I was trying (perhaps ineffectively) to make.

If Vegas has taught us anything, it should be that there's value in providing an opportunity to players who haven't "earned it" in the traditional sense. Maybe Baptiste et al. ultimately flop and don't belong in the NHL, but for a team that finished in last place, there isn't a single good reason to not give them a shot.

I continue to be flabbergasted by the apparent ease with which people are willing to part with O'Reilly.

Yes, I turn it down, but I'd have to consider it...though my consideration would have nothing to do with Lucic. Klefbom is such a monumental upgrade over McCabe that I'd consider swapping a putrid contract for a cataclysmic waste of money. Sometimes I wonder if we're the same person. I would add a conditional: If we trade ROR for a defenseman we have to trade Risto for a forward. To your main point, I would simply add that humans have a negativity bias. We remember the negative. So generally speaking, we're going to remember O'Reilly's defensive mistakes. Furthermore, a blown coverage that results in a goal against is a hell of a lot more memorable than an effective stick check in a passing lane to clear the zone.

ETA until somebody proposes Okposo for Lucic because of toughness?

Deadpool >>>>> Deadpool 2.

I want a game 7 just so I can see everyone whine about the Vegas pre-game one last time.

In all seriousness, has John Shannon every broken a story? Or at least broken any within the last 5 years? I honestly can't recall any.

Or you could just use Google Voice for $0 :)