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Or maybe it's because people keep ignoring the recommendations so they need to make it sound more severe or its become more severe because people keep ignoring recommendations... For something that takes such a long time to incubate the time period to know if things have adjusted is drawn out.

This is what I referred to before. What is the living wage? Are you defining that based off what you feel people SHOULD have versus what they NEED? Due to the general preponderance of society to be materialistic many people live beyond their means. Those who do so are actually getting a living wage, but are so foolish in how they handle their money that it seems like they are not. People will question the situation. Jobs that pay $X are not meant to be career jobs but rather are jobs that are designed to served in temporarily while those people work themselves up the ladder (no not everyone can, but most can). If you paid everyone "living wage" what do you think that would do to the cost of living? What is the cost of a large cheese and pepperoni pizza when employees who make them get paid $20/hr? Around here those pizzas are already $20+. There are thousands of what-ifs.. there are millions of didn't try or did make excuses. You can find the exceptions, but don't ignore the majority of situations. People are irrational and as such they make decisions that hinder them in many ways. No one wants to hear it, but that does not make it false. My wife runs an organization that is geographically bound to the southern shore of Lake Ontario. We are a single income family so she can spend time volunteering to run this organization. I work in a volatile field where I've been moved involuntarily between jobs 3 times in 7 years. She's done this for nearly 25 years and yet we've planned that should I lose my job we are most likely going to be moving out of the state before I get my next job. The market sucks in Rochester. As it is, before COVID, I had to fly to the HQ in Arkansas (not Wal-mart) once a month. We're prepared to uproot our kids and distance ourselves from family because we have to find a way to make ends meet. That of course is MY situation and it isn't indicative of everyone else either. Everyone's situation is different. When I moved into my current house our neighbor was a carpenter and had a hard time finding consistent work. They were in above their heads on the house they bought. They ultimately moved into an apartment in our town. This was their decision rather than uprooting their child and moving south where there were plenty of jobs. Their choice.. they made it work. I have another friend whose wife was just diagnosed with a brain tumor. He's had all kinds of health problems throughout his life that have prevented him holding down a steady job. He's done all kinds of side projects to try and earn money while she is a cashier at Wegmans. They live paycheck to paycheck and now they are in really deep because she won't be working, he barely makes any money, and they will have a mountain of bills to pay. Now, I've questioned some of his choices in the past as I think he's capable of finding a better way to earn a living, but at the same time I am donating to help them get through this surgery. Maybe. Maybe they made a choice to care for their children or parents and also need to accept the constraints that will put on their lives by choosing to do so. Maybe Johnny had a kid at 17... maybe he made a decision then that will impact him for the rest of his life. Maybe Jordan won't be able to have everything that someone who is smarter and more capable can have. Does that mean Jordan should be given it anyway? And just maybe they are all unfortunate circumstances where they need the good will of society to get through. Because maybe it was all out of their control because sometimes loads of really bad crap happen. It's that point that you hope they've got a great social network that can help them get through the bad times. Whether it's their employer, their friends, obtaining assistance from a charity that helps those in need or with a particular need, or at the end a government assistance program.

You know what? There are people who need additional help in this world, they can't always do it by themselves. And you know what? There are people who take advantage of programs put in place to help those people. And you know what else? There are people who make really bad decisions and increase their odds of ending up in bad situations. Society could be about helping each other out but at some point there will be a bit of scrutiny paid to the guy who seems to always be taking and never giving. It used to be that you knew everyone was trying to do their fair share but these days a lot of people make really bad decisions and because of that people often want to know that their money is going to be put to good use. Of course we're edging into more political discussions at this point. I'd should focus on what PSE could and will do for their employees. I'm still waiting to see.

There's a point in the Creed games where it gets repetitive and more importantly you can combat your way through almost anything. They are a lot of fun to run around in however. I do enjoy them.

I'd like to have the time to dig into this and get information before I go around casting judgment. Are the workers employees of PSE? Are the workers in other arenas employees of their respective franchises? I do think there's an aspect that regardless stepping up to create a program to help these employees out would be good. Of course the thinking seems to be that they'll get paid when they work the games later so why pay them now. I think the program needs to be able to perhaps pay them partial salaries to keep some level of income flowing. That said, there is also an aspect of, you create your own reality. I once had a job where I was paid hourly and due to a natural disaster I was unable to report to work and I didn't get paid. That event went a long way to making sure I was never an hourly employee again. That said, not all of the people working at the arena have the same options available to them that I did. It's a tough call all around. People will be hit by this, in all walks of life.

Well, at least the thread made it back. I did not have tickets and I was waiting to see if people even brought it up. We'll all wait with baited breath at this point to see what happens. But, I love hockey and hanging with people on this forum is always a great time so I am still certain that if I can get some secondary tix, I will.

I did read all of this. This is a great post. I'm not qualified to agree or not agree as I was very much not "in Buffalo" during this time, but these kinds of posts should be encouraged around here. Well done. I was always a fan of TC and felt horrible about his health issues. At that time I was not really "in Rochester" either so for the most part I was between and while I was always a fan, I was not as clued in as I was earlier on and then later on. Love this post..

They have not closed anything in Monroe County yet. The word we got today is that they are set for online teaching but will use it only if they have to. Actually got a really good email from the district with links to different policies from NYS, CDC, etc.

The Monroe County Superintendents basically said they are monitoring. But prepare for child care needs should things change. I'm expecting the online schooling approach to be taken up. It's super easy to do and in our school at least all kinds have computers and the school has the tools to deliver online video presentations.

I mean.. I went out to the liquor store.. I was out of bourbon, gin, and rum. But this time, just to be safe, in addition to the normal rum I also bought overproof Plantation rum 69% alcohol. We can't have germs living on my ice cubes. So.. that's my level of panic. ?

NPR had a discussion with one of the Jazz journalists. When the Jazz player failed the influenza test they finally gave the COVID test. When he tested positive the OKC health department prioritized testing for the team, etc. That's why it happened. The journalist has NOT had the test however. He had already returned to Utah. He heard the news last night and pulled himself and his kid from the public event they were at and has self-quarantined for now. Send me too.. although I have ways to reach out to him... I am lazy. ?

I think the tipping point has been reached and at this point the risk of NOT acting puts you in line for some level of bad publicity or worse. Everyone is canceling everything. Our school just shutdown any overnight travel until April 12. It's only a matter of time before they cancel all sports and possibly put the kinds into online learning. It's happening. I see no way the AHL does not respond in a similar fashion at this point.

Hold on there captain. I'm not sure we want those there either. ? I'm just focused on the impacts right now. On the board of 3 organizations and it's constant discussion about how we handle every event/public interaction at this point. All of it day by day because things are so fluid.

Monroe County has their first and there are a few people being tested in Greece (the town). They were in Italy last week. Daughter's volleyball in buffalo canceled for the weekend. USA Hockey Nationals canceled (I have friends whose daughters are on the Rochester Edge 14U who were supposed to go after winning NYS last week). It's unfortunate...

Lots of free time coming up.

This is also happening in K-12 schools. A co-worker had his child's school close in Atlanta and they said to prepare for online schooling.

It's only a good idea for hockey GMs? ? In most cases, by the time someone works up enough influence in the political party they are older. Younger candidates are often seen as too idealistic, too volatile. Which, of course, is a good joke given the current administration. No matter how hard you try, I'm not sure you can ever have the same perception as someone else. This is even more true when you consider the differences between yourself and the other person. Regardless of what I can be told, I cannot replicate the feeling of racism or sexism. Not in the same ways. Obviously we can all strive to understand the situations better but without the experience I'm not convinced it can ever be the same. When you choose to give up, you choose to stop fighting to make change. Then accept that results. I don't think that engaging in an anonymous message board is not being involved. If the message is seen here and carried somewhere else then it did it's job. My biggest concern and focus is on the trends in population shift. How will that play into changing the political landscape after this election when states like NY an CA are likely to lose representation and states like TX, AZ, FL are likely to gain it.

Yes. That much is easy to deduce. The league cannot afford to have their players becoming infected, especially those that are playoff bound. They need to take precautions. Letting reports into the locker room infects the entire space. Because reports are out in the hallways and press boxes mixing it up with people they are far more likely to bring germs into the locker room than the players. It's a simple preventative measure. The financial impact of having a team become infected could be significant, so take a little precaution. It's not like they are not allowing the media and fans into the arena.

I 100% agree with you. And the problem has been that lately Reinhart has not been that engaged. As with others... This is also true, but the Sabres don't have the talent to overcome this where other teams do. They can't take games off. The overall tendency has been to drift into a conservative shell (all lines) but some have been doing it a bit TOO often. It all starts with the leaders and if Eichel is going to pull his attitude, as he has been, then there will be others that see that and respond accordingly. It has to change.. when they are hard on the puck they are far more successful, all the way around.

They are lazy. If you aren't willing to get the puck then it doesn't matter how much talent you have. They CAN get the puck, they have shown in the past that they are willing to get the puck. They are not doing it now and have not been for awhile. Once they have the puck then we can clearly see their lack of talent. Larssons, Girgensons, Okposo are the example. They are continually on the puck and causing turnovers, unfortunately they are not skilled enough to put it in the net routinely. At the same time Reinhart, Eichel, and others are not doing what it takes to get the puck. They have talent, but they are too lazy to get the puck.

Well, when you belong to a prime lineage such as Eleven you'd expect his great great grandfather to be one, wouldn't you?

Really? Damn, I thought with all the draft talk going on around here that we still conscripted soldiers into service every year. My bad.

Lazy, at this level, is a relative term I think. Staying late doesn't always mean you play your butt off on the ice. A few players on this team are playing a perimeter game. Eichel is the poster child for it right now. There are others. They play a stick check game when body check is required and their stick checks are hopeful swings as they drive by the puck carrier.

I'm not saying that marketing isn't a good thing. But let's not overplay it. As for stress, there's certainly something to it. But it's still not the same as other walks of life. It's still a game. I know players. The one's who didn't really make it. I think the biggest demon they live with is knowing they couldn't make it. It's not the stress from others but the expectations they had for themselves that they could not live up to. There's a level of belief and confidence they have to have just to persevere but when it ultimately doesn't pan it's hard to accept. The same pride that got them so far works against them when it comes to an end. There's a point where people have to come to grips with the concept of "I did everything i could and I couldn't do any more."

Wouldn't it be great if they could make a living as musicians as opposed to soldiers? Thanks for sharing.