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I see Zucker as the more offensive minded Okposo replacement. He's here to provide some level of experience and leadership to the team and chip in where he can. It's a lot for him, but we all agreed on overpayment being required so here we are. It took $5M to get Zucker to come to Buffalo. use that in comparisons to other players to figure out what it would have taken to get them to sign here. The team has to win and until then.. it's develop from within because it's all they have.

Which would be as justified as all the naysayers saying "I told you so". If, by some miracle, the Sabres make the playoffs next year without making much more in the way of changes then all the doomsayers of today would be wrong. Pessimism or not. I get that the joy of pessimism is that you can be right, or pleasantly surprised with being wrong. That's why so many opt for it. But being wrong is wrong. Not the end of the world by any means because most of us on here are wrong more than we are right. Hell, that's true in life too. There is all of July, August, September to go before the team takes the ice. Still unimpressed by the changes, but 3 months is an eternity in hockey.

Theoretically... assuming he has any interest in signing in Buffalo. Perhaps he has no interest.

Which part? Trade Chychrun or Jensen because no.. the Sabres had neither of those guys. Not sure what you were looking for in your complaint, for Buffalo to acquire Chychrun or Jensen? Well.. true, but the Sabres don't have the same roster. Sadly.

This would be my expectation, unless the Sabres find a unicorn. The next hope is that UFA signings of top players shake a few roster players free that the Sabres can go after in a trade. It's a small hope.

Woof. Love UFA day for some crazy deals.

Yeah, not even close. I could go on and on. The things I listed are just the high level supporting evidence for my statement. The point was to not devolve another thread into the same arguments that permeate every other thread.

Let's just all agree that there's no need to post about the Sabres ineptitude today. The horse has been dead for quite some time. By now we have to accept that until somehow they right the ship internally, or they change ownership, that players who will make a difference to the team are not going to come here. It's 13 years of not only not making the playoffs, but being laughably inept at times. While some good will moves have been made it's not enough to overcome 13 years of losing. I'm not fully blaming Adams because the run up to this point is only partly on him. The top is lonely, but it's the top that should be shouldering all the attention. So far he's shuffled the deck chairs on the Titanic quite a few times... but the ship is still sinking.

When you remodel a house it always looks uglier at the beginning then at the end. The real key here is what does the end look like. Because I've seen plenty of houses wrapped in Tyvek for years...

I'd love for the Rangers to do this because it would be a massive mistake. Couple it with a full NMC.. please. Sooo not Stamkos, who is clearly going to end up in Toronto... so they can then trade Marner or something goofy. The NHL will give us plenty to talk about.. probably not so much related to the Sabres though.

All this conversation over a comment from Andrew Peters. It's incredible. Nothing this guy does changes my opinion of him from the first time I met him. He's a self-absorbed jack-ass desperately trying to hang on to any notoriety he gained from playing a handful of professional hockey games. The dude is giving Mike Commodore a run for his money.

Meh. The Sabres have to overpay a bit, we've established that. This guy doesn't move the needle much other than swapping around some pieces on the 4th line. He fills a PK role, so that's good. As far as being afraid to play against him.. well is that a phrase uttered by the 19-20 year old players going up against a 26 year old back in the AHL? Adams has to make more moves, I think we all agree on that. I'm holding judgment until the team steps on the ice because after 13 years of misery it's too much wasted energy breaking down this team every day.

At some point. At which point is the question. And the longer it goes, the worse it gets. Yep. As they should. You deal from a position of strength. Adams has to flip the script. I sincerely hope so. Finding a player who can play with the GFYS attitude of some Canadian players is not easy. But European players have traditionally not fit that mold. He's the Sabres player now, so nothing to do but hope he's that guy,

100%, but a player under contract with no protection has no choice. I just think Adams is looking for a fair trade and he's not going to get one. Every GM knows he has to win now and is going to try and make him overspend. I would. You don't win when you are dealing from the disadvantaged position. The Sabres are going to have to get in the playoffs before anyone takes them seriously. Until then, who knows.. but it's not getting any easier.

They said on the broadcast the Buffalo was trying to trade. I'd like to think they had an option but were asking too much, etc. They gotta do something at some point.

Might as well. The fans need to be babied as well. Perhaps they needed both?

Take a step back. It makes sense if you consider what you were saying. It's not remotely nonsense. My comments were not an attack at you but the hypothetical situation where being happy for one team would have adverse impacts preventing you from feeling sad for another. You brought up a hypothetical situation to which I responded, nothing more. I wasn't even commenting on your take on Okposo. But LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL away. Massive :eyeroll: Ahh, hell I misremembered. Appreciate the correction. Really not sure why I thought he won in the year he was traded.

Of course not. And those on the Panthers who dreamed of scoring the game winning goal are also all going to be real disappointed they didn't win the Cup in accordance to their dreams... except for Reinhart, but his dream was to do it in triple OT, so again, nothing but disappointment with the outcome. I bet Kyle believed strongly that being a good player and a great teammate would improve his chances of being on a team that could with the Cup and lo.. what do we have here? It happened! Ray Bourque. Done. 100% this. Kane has demonstrated a lack of class over and over again. I didn't hear his name in the Finals... I wasn't even thinking about him until his name was brought up. No. You can have 40 different feelings (well, even more if you knew all the players who were eligible for the Cup but not on the roster or the scratched list). You can be happier for some and sadder for others. You can be completely agnostic for all of them. It's not a situation where everyone can win, so if you truly felt the way you theorized about you would oppose the sport in and of itself because it creates winner and losers thus leading to the situation you wanted to avoid.

I hope so too. And happy for his family and his friends, his teammates, and himself as well. I bet he's also happy with Kevyn Adams who traded him to Florida giving him an opportunity to be part of a team that ultimately won the Stanley Cup fulfilling one of his lifelong dreams. So, now he's even happy for the GM of the Sabres. All this happiness.

The problem a lot of people have with any MVP selection is that it's not about the final game or final series but the work as a whole over the period of time. While Bobrovsky was exceptional at times he was also pulled from a game after letting in 5. He wasn't his team's MVP on that night. McDavid didn't get it done in Game 7. Just because that was the deciding game should not necessarily detract from his overall performance. Ultimately, in looking at the games each of those players played from Game 1 of the First Round through Game 7 of the last round, the PWHA voted McDavid. He did break a Finals record for assists. At one point I think I saw a stat somewhere around Game 5 that he had 10 points in the OIlers last 15 goals. That's a pretty impressive stat. Now, I don't love that McDavid was selected, but when I look at Bobrovsky I think his terrible performances in Games 4,5,6 are what took him down a notch. There was no one else on Florida who was more deserving. There's certainly no one on Edmonton more deserving. It makes for good debate and good debate keeps the NHL relevant.

Cheers to Okposo. Can't not be happy for him. The only story line on this I care about.

Either way, this is a hell of a game.

Cousins. They were kind of rotating between Lomberg, Cousins, and Okposo.. and I see Lomberg in there. Yep. Barring a last minute change.

Well, capfriendly does not post tax returns of players. They post salaries. but what's odd is.. there is such a site for people like Terry Pegula - https://www.forbes.com/profile/terrence-pegula/ And ultimately, why does it matter to anyone what someone else chooses to do with their time? Even if you don't understand it, do you need to? (This is not directed at your @PASabreFan but to all who are questioning each other about other's preferences).