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Its pretty clear Ralph values experience more than skill. I don’t have faith that they select someone else next time.

Dave Andrechuck was also a power forward who did not hit many people. What he did do that made him a power forward was use his size and strength to create chaos and space. If Thompson would use his size and strength in the same way he'd be quire effective. But that is an attitude as well.

There were two narratives being crushed there. A sort of double narratendre.

But narratives....

Watch it first

Are you complimenting th for having sex?

Yup. Not wedded to a narrative (ick, I did that). The stats we’re using to show our goalies are bad show MAF as performing very well.

Based on these we should be clammoring for a MAF trade.

You and me both. I’m sure you miss the experience of playing live. I probably go out to listen to live music 20x per year. Haven’t heard a live band in over 1 yr now. Ugh.

They vote to their self interests. I think more often than not, who we are associating with is a higher self interest that real socio-economic self interests. I don't understand your "not true" comment. I was speaking of companies, like the NHL for instance and not individuals, so I don't understand how your "not true" applies. You get it. Business is rather blind to everything except profit. They need incentive to reach beyond profit making decisions. We consumers tend to not provide them with that incentive.

And corporations of all stripes are betting on us not supporting them. At the end of the day we generally don't look past our own wants/needs.

What the hell just happened? Pi on the pipe again?

Business won't lead the way, and we shouldn't expect them to. They operate to coldly and efficiently make money for their owners. Social issues are only important as a means of profit. I don't think it should be that way, but it is. Supposedly this is a feature, not a bug.

LOL it's not that negative really. Indifferent is a better word. I've commented a handful of times that Jack isn't being the dynamic player he needs to be. And Dahlin has looked dreadful in the D zone so far. Beyond that.... you may be thinking of someone else.

I remember seeing 9 fingers on the ball in that photo. No hard feelings towards Harmon here. He was a player in the transition towards a dynasty.

I don’t think this is any different than any other corporation. Show them how they can profit from it short term and they’ll be all over it, otherwise they’ll pay lip service for PR, just like any other social cause.

Why do you think I am intent on dynamiting the team? All I said was, show me the return for Jack and I’ll decide whether or not I think it is worth trading him. And my recommendation to you is to stop recommending how other people perceive the team and their fandom. It’s obnoxious.

You've got the concept (Kopitar is too old for my tastes). I avoided mentioning specific packages because that would devolve into a micro conversation about individual players, contracts, age, etc. and would completely overshadow my point, that a package could certainly be had that would improve the team immediately by virtue of filling all the holes and hide the loss of Jack reasonably well. It's not like it hasn't been done before. Is it rare? It sure as hell is, but so is Jack's talent. And so is our futility.

5x5 play had been worrisome.

Yeah, you're right. Bonafide superstars never get traded for 3-4 good players. It sure will be a surprise I'll give you that.

I'm not talking about a backwards move. That's why I said I want to see the deal first. Return me a 1C, 1G, some scoring depth with playoff tested veteran grit and I'm gonna look real hard at it.

And we don’t even have to worry about Wilson....

Sober up and try again.

Gretz was traded and Edm won a cup not too long after. Sometimes you take a step down in individual talent but increase team talent overall. The pic is Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead fame. \m/

Show me the return first. I'm not wedded to any of them.